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Once again, D7 delivers! This time in Super Comp at Phoenix, Race 2, and the 'bye car' at 3 cars did not appear. He did receive 'semifinal loser' points, as did the loser of that round in the other pair. No runner-up points were awarded. Tony Leonard | |||
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Once the split has been established, it would pay just as described in my scenario, nothing changes. The semi final pair would be racing for win or semi money, same result if the bye car broke or not. "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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I guess NHRA is gifting points to people now. Who knows what they are thinking. NHRA is run like our government. Mark Yeager | |||
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I'm taking an Excedrin. Bob | |||
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IMO, the racer earned the points by winning the prior rounds and advancing to the semifinal round of the ladder. To get quarterfinal points would be getting the same points as the racer he defeated in the prior round. He had a free round but didn’t appear, and therefore didn’t get points for it. All seems fair to me. Tony Leonard | |||
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Tony, This is actually the race I was describing. My friend (Dirtdobber) on here made it to the "final" and was told it was the final. Now whether that plays out remains to be seen since NHRA hasn't gotten back with him. I will post more on their decision when it becomes available. Everyone felt bad for the car who couldn't make the call since apparently his car was broken badly. My understanding was that the bottom frame rails were lying on the ground. Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here I am....... | |||
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Thinking of it in terms of chronological order. the by is normally held to run last. If so, the first 2 cars run and create an elimination. the eliminated racer gets semi-final money and points. The bye run is now up, if he can't make it, then is also eliminated in the semis and gets semi round money and points. Winner from semis gets a "bye run" in the finals and has to break the beams to claim his final round win. ------------------------------------------ "Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persist in his or her error." "To achieve greatness, one must be willing to dance in the voids of chaos and strife to conquer their future." | |||
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I should have realized that, knowing you run with Bill. I don't see how an argument could be made that Bill is the runner-up from a points and money perspective, given the ladder. That round was the 'de facto final', since the winner there would be the winner of the race. Tony Leonard | |||
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Different in these laddered races. At our local track it has always been that points are awarded for the round you won. The exception is the final, where there is a single point for the runner up, with 10 points to every won round. The winner gets not only the round points, but also 2 bonus points for the win. It just makes things simple. As far as byes, first round bye in our bracket races is chosen randomly. There is no ladder. And if you don't use your bye, you keep it til the next round, or until you lose or use the bye. So the bye runs last every round. There are no competition singles. Now in our q16 program when we had one, the pairs are laddered based upon your qualifying time. That's fine. But what has always kinda stunk is that if there is a bye, and someone is a no show, there are two cars with no competitor. Particularly irritating at the races where the field doesn't completely fill. Even the racers who run the series usually offer up that hey we can freakin race each other. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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A few years ago, I was in this type of a situation. The 3 semi-final cars were in the lanes. 2 dragsters and a door car. The slick on the door car started leaking badly. A split was agreed to and the 2 dragsters ran the semi-final race. The crew from the door car was trying to fix his slick, somebody offered him a set of tires. I waited for him to get the tires on. Then found out the tires were off site and on the way to be delivered. The track officials told me that I was the winner because they were not waiting all night on the tires to show up. He got runner up money. Don't get behind me,I'm in the slow lane. | |||
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Since the cat is out of the bag I will say this.nhra rules state you must stage the car under it's own power to advance to the next rnd,therefore competitor #3 could not advance beyond the quarterfinals leaving two cars.Then the semi round was declared the final round in the staging lanes before we ran.I know it's they're ballpark so it is what it is butt I feel it was a bad decision based on the printed rule.As of today there has been no reply from Matt DeYoung witch is regretable.A common curtousy acknowledgement would be appreciated! Doing my part to raise the average IQ on this board | |||
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I don't know how you can say that competitor #3 could not advance beyond the quarterfinals when he not only staged for the quarterfinals, but he won the round. How would it be fair for him to get the same $ and points as the racer he had just staged beside and defeated? Now, I agree 100% that he could not advance beyond the semifinals since he could not stage for that round, but he had earned his spot in that round. The issue seems to be what was said to you in the staging lanes. Tony Leonard | |||
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Depends on the track rules whether they need to stage and break the beam to get points. The car pulled for the bye in the semi's is in the final, period. He gets runner-up money unless there was a split agreed to before hand. The winner of the other pair is also in the final and gets the final round win, big check, trophy, purse, whatever. And the loser in the semi's is just unlucky that day. Collect your semi final money and move on to tomorrow or next week. 72 Nova "Hooptie" | |||
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Im with TomR | |||
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Doing my part to raise the average IQ on this board | |||
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sorry i meant to say semi. Doing my part to raise the average IQ on this board | |||
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Tom R pay attention nhra divisional nhra rules! Doing my part to raise the average IQ on this board | |||
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