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Anyone read the racers mind book. worth trying ?
 
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Doubt you’ll see Ed’s name mentioned in there
 
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he11 that adds value right there.




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Professional athletes pay a lot of money for sports psychology, why shouldn't racers do the same? (Not that this program is going to break the bank) Most racers are to too proud and will never admit something like this can help them win more.

I went to one of Bruce's seminars at PRI years ago. The topics he covered made a lot of sense to me and although I didn't purchase any of his products at the time, I do remember the talking points he brought up and still use them today.

I just purchased his workbook and will let you know what I think once it comes in.


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Most racers are to too proud and will never admit something like this can help them win more



Might be what makes some constant winners and others not so much. I am stubborn as they come,but willing to learn something new at same time.

Keep us informed ans does it come on cd.My reading comprehension sucks out the ---.




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I think knowledge like this is extremely valuable. I have read several articles on mental preparation for athletes. Great information to add to your arsenal. Mindset is incredibly important, I have read several self development books and all have been positive to my knowledge base.


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Most racers are to too proud and will never admit something like this can help them win more



Might be what makes some constant winners and others not so much. I am stubborn as they come,but willing to learn something new at same time.

Keep us informed ans does it come on cd.My reading comprehension sucks out the ---.


http://www.theracersmind.com/featuresworkbook.php

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Why a workbook and not a DVD? It would be easy to sit back and watch a DVD... but watching a DVD won't help you. A workbook is proven to be much more effective. Why? Because you will learn more completely when you actively work on skills rather than just watch or listen. The workbook makes your task as easy as possible, with clearly laid out racer-proven exercises and an easy to use audio CD


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Made a big improvement in my racing, well worth the money. Spoiler alert the CDs are about relaxation and clearing your mind, not the best thing to listen to while you're driving down the road.
 
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There is a book on Chassis called Doorslammers by Dave Morgan. That book was written probably 45 years ago and still has some useful information. I have most all of the chassis books and I do not consider any one of them the answer to all questions. That book by Dave Morgan got a lot of people thinking and some have taken those ideas and took it further. One of the so called "Experts" here says the book is useless and if you read it you are clueless. He said same thing about Reher and Morrisons motor book which has a lot of good information in it.
Here is the deal nobody knows everything and just one piece of information could make it well worth the cost. You can not learn too much and the mental side of racing is very important and something most do not think about.
I say if you buy it and work it surely it will help, now how much and if it is worth the cost is your call.


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"Dunning-Kruger Effect"
-a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge.

Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue.

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^^^^^CLUELESS^^^^^ but so am I, along with ED.


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There is a book on Chassis called Doorslammers by Dave Morgan. That book was written probably 45 years ago and still has some useful information. I have most all of the chassis books and I do not consider any one of them the answer to all questions. That book by Dave Morgan got a lot of people thinking and some have taken those ideas and took it further. One of the so called "Experts" here says the book is useless and if you read it you are clueless. He said same thing about Reher and Morrisons motor book which has a lot of good information in it.
Here is the deal nobody knows everything and just one piece of information could make it well worth the cost. You can not learn too much and the mental side of racing is very important and something most do not think about.
I say if you buy it and work it surely it will help, now how much and if it is worth the cost is your call.


Well said. Morgan's book isn't all that popular now. Was pretty well received when it was published. Frankly, it's one way to look at chassis setup when it comes to rear suspension. I had plots on the shop floor and in the plotting software as well.

There are other ways to skin that cat, and they are all looking at the same science in a different way. "Squat and anisquat" gave a unique way to visualize what happens with changes in instant centers. And from an engineering standpoint, it wasn't wrong. But there are other ways to look at the problem as well. I have said before about math, that it is good to look at any problem from different angles and try solving it more than one way. You come to the same conclusion and you have a pretty good idea you did it correctly.

As far as the racer's mind: Isn't this much the same as what Tammy Eggleston taught 20+ years ago? She had a lot of stuff about visualization, positive thinking and putting mistakes behind you as you learn from them. Very important skills for anyone in motorsports or sports period.


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I agree. Nobody knows everything, but please tell me your joking about listening to motor theory and practice by David Reher was not a wise thing to do. Please tell me nobody on this or any site other site related to DRAG RACING is that damn ignorant. PLEASE! Nobody could EVER seriously say that with a straight face.


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I missed the Reher deal. What was the deal there?


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I missed the Reher deal. What was the deal there?


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One of the so called "Experts" here says the book is useless and if you read it you are clueless. He said same thing about Reher and Morrisons motor book which has a lot of good information in it.


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Oh I wondered. I read David's books years ago and they were useful. Not mind blowing. Certainly I didn't think they were moronic.


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The Racer's Mind is my project. Hard to believe it's been 15 years since it first came out. Those who read National Dragster may recall the Racer's Mind column that went on for seven years. A lot of the column was drawn in some part from the workbook or ongoing research. I'm glad to answer any questions.

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the articles were some of the best and helpful stuff that has been in ND. they should have you write more stuff. it was very helpful.

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Originally posted by racersmind:
The Racer's Mind is my project. Hard to believe it's been 15 years since it first came out. Those who read National Dragster may recall the Racer's Mind column that went on for seven years. A lot of the column was drawn in some part from the workbook or ongoing research. I'm glad to answer any questions.

Bruce Deveau


Okay, tell us more about the program. What it does, cost etc?


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"Dunning-Kruger Effect"
-a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge.

Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue.

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I still have my copy of the work book and the cd that came with it. I haven’t looked at it in years but I remember if you followed the instructions it did help to get your mind clear if you were wound up too tight. I need to find it to look at it again.
 
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Thanks, Pauley. I stopped writing for ND when it seemed I was running out of things to say and the workbook was approaching 10 years.

Curly1: I want to respect the forum's rules about selling, so i will give it a general description: The workbook seeks to work with you, the driver, in the same way you would work with your car to bring the same package to the line each time. The thoughts you think, the emotions you feel, and the physical state you are in (such as adrenaline load) all together constitute the main factors of the mental game.
They are to you as the air, fuel and spark are to your engine. Each human factor can be controlled and adjusted to make you more confident and consistent.

The workbook works with each of the three factors to give you knowledge and control.

I hope that answers your question.

Bruce Deveau
 
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