Bracket Talk
“The Bender”

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January 21, 2021, 04:45 PM
T/D6591
“The Bender”
Hopefully it's not a gutless Cutlass.


January 21, 2021, 06:27 PM
imakehp
I didn't read all the posts so sorry if this was already asked...I'm assuming you collected a lot of "reverse bounties" on you?


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Dave



F J B

January 26, 2021, 03:13 PM
"The Bender"
quote:
Originally posted by T/D6591:
Hopefully it's not a gutless Cutlass.


Define "Gutless".............


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
February 12, 2021, 04:05 PM
M120
Okay Bender,

Spill the beans!
Whatcha working on?
10 second cars are fun too!
Does it have a hemi? Lol



Cool
February 12, 2021, 04:35 PM
J178RED
I don't care what it runs, as long as it can turn WIN lights on.... haha

Dancing Cat


HAVE THEY CALLED US YET ? THEY HAVE!!!
February 12, 2021, 06:17 PM
B KING
How about a little info on the Cutlass build. Wink


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
February 16, 2021, 06:49 AM
"The Bender"
It's an 87 Cutlass that has been in my family since new.

It will have stock front and rear suspension, no wheel tubs, so a 10" tire. 9" rear, 4.30 gears and an FTI (what else?) glide. Aluminum interior, 10 point cage, keeping the electric windows (it's hot in Florida).

I'll be running local brackets and some index stuff. I suspect it will run mid-high 10's, if I'm ever able to run 1/4 mile.

As far as the engine goes yes, as the saying goes, "That thing got a Hemi".

I built a stroked 6.1 (370") Gen3 Hemi that is now 420". It's a mild (6500rpm) motor, 11.25CR, mild hydraulic roller cam with stock cnc'ed 6.1 heads and a dual plane intake. No fuel injection, I'm using a 4150 carb from Mark Whitner. The biggest challenge with this build is the headers. Nothing off the shelf, either manifolds or headers would come close to working, so I'm having headers built for it now.


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
February 16, 2021, 06:51 AM
"The Bender"
quote:
Originally posted by J178RED:
I don't care what it runs, as long as it can turn WIN lights on.... haha

Dancing Cat


Me too


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
September 13, 2023, 06:28 AM
B KING
Classic thread TTT!

2BKING
Relaxing


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
September 13, 2023, 09:17 AM
"The Bender"
Well, King since you bumped this dead thread TTT I guess I should update what's going on with the Cutlass, AKA "Oldsmopar".....

I made some changes/improvements to the engine, installed a more aggressive cam (still pretty mild though) and switched to a single plane intake, it is still 11:25 compression.

I have also built another 420" Hemi that has better heads, 13:1 compression and a more aggressive cam than my milder engine.

The car itself remains the same, still on a 10" tire. I recently put it on a diet and was able the take 185# off, so it crosses the scales at 3100# with me in it. Haven't run it yet at this weight but will soon. It's still all steel except for the hood and still has all glass windows, don't forget the power windows! LOL

As far as performance goes, with the mild engine it has gone 6.39 before the weight reduction. And with the better engine also before weight reduction it has gone 6.12, but since then I have switched cam's and had some work done on the intake on the faster engine. All these times were through the mufflers.

So, after the diet and changes on the good engine I'm expecting (hoping) for ET's in the 5's in decent weather......we'll know in a couple of months when it finally cools off here.

I haven't run it very much and not at all in the heat of summertime. I'm too old for the crap.

Interestingly enough the first time out with the car at G-ville on a bracket night, I went to the finals, then two weeks later did the same thing. First time I did have some luck and the car was just OK, second time after a few small changes the car was deadly, and I drove pretty well too, except in the final! LOL


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
September 13, 2023, 01:22 PM
B KING
Bender,

Thanks for the update on the Cutlass, that's what I was hoping for without asking. Plus, I wanted to see your incredible signature again. Wink

2BKING
Relaxing


1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3000 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
September 13, 2023, 02:21 PM
"The Bender"
quote:
Originally posted by B KING:
Bender,

Thanks for the update on the Cutlass, that's what I was hoping for without asking. Plus, I wanted to see your incredible signature again. Wink

2BKING
Relaxing


Falling of chair laughing


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
September 13, 2023, 04:22 PM
BP758
Wassup!
Dancing Cat


Raceless in California!
September 13, 2023, 04:34 PM
"The Bender"
How the heck are ya?

Looks like the cat's out of the bag!


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
September 13, 2023, 07:11 PM
BP758
Ok how are you?
Stockers running. It’s kicking my a… just finished motor check etc… it’s at 60 under and it will not rpm. Like a governor.. it’s a pig until I figure out why.
GTO is ok. Hauling. I’ve talked with Moe a few times and Charlie too.


Raceless in California!
September 14, 2023, 12:37 AM
Joe Burkleo
Brian,
How far are you from Orlando? My daughter just moved there last month. Looks like we will be making some trips out that way.

Glad you are doing well and sounds like the car is coming right along.
September 14, 2023, 07:44 AM
"The Bender"
quote:
Originally posted by BP758:
Ok how are you?
Stockers running. It’s kicking my a… just finished motor check etc… it’s at 60 under and it will not rpm. Like a governor.. it’s a pig until I figure out why.
GTO is ok. Hauling. I’ve talked with Moe a few times and Charlie too.


Sounds like a fuel supply problem?

I guess .60 is not good enough? Isn't it just a dial in deal anyway, unless you're running someone in the same class?


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
September 14, 2023, 07:46 AM
"The Bender"
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Burkleo:
Brian,
How far are you from Orlando? My daughter just moved there last month. Looks like we will be making some trips out that way.

Glad you are doing well and sounds like the car is coming right along.


I'm almost 100 miles north of Orlando.

If you get a chance, Garlits museum is 10 miles south of me. If you've never been, it's a must see. I could meet you there!


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.
September 14, 2023, 10:14 AM
BP758
quote:
Originally posted by "The Bender":
quote:
Originally posted by BP758:
Ok how are you?
Stockers running. It’s kicking my a… just finished motor check etc… it’s at 60 under and it will not rpm. Like a governor.. it’s a pig until I figure out why.
GTO is ok. Hauling. I’ve talked with Moe a few times and Charlie too.


Sounds like a fuel supply problem?

I guess .60 is not good enough? Isn't it just a dial in deal anyway, unless you're running someone in the same class?



Yeah it’s a shoe polish ( some bottles have bad numbers) class but I’m also about performance. Last pass before a blew it up ( my fault) was 10.13 130 and there was more. This is all new except for the cam. I have everything to upgrade fuel system. 400 pump and a return system. Car ran well before 131.97 before with current fuel system so??
Throw it on the pump next couple of weeks and see.
We’ll figure it out….


Raceless in California!
September 14, 2023, 10:33 AM
"The Bender"
I'm with ya on the performance thing. I always want my stuff to run better than people think it should......or at least respectable.


272" Spitzer
540 Chevy
The Blower Shop XR1
FTI XPM Series Converter
FTI Level 6 Powerglide
3.69@199
.916 60'

2017 Bradenton Heads Up Madness
Open Outlaw Champ

2018 PDRA T/D #5
2019 PDRA T/D #2

2020 Retired From T/D Competition....

2020 Bradenton NMCA Hemi Shootout Winner

2021 getting back into bracket racing with a Gen3 Hemi powered 87 Cutlass.