easy 15k in missing items to make it all top shelf, it doesn't even have a logger. So it's more like 70k, then add 10k for trans and converter. And a 50k motor installed, ready to run. It's actually very comparably priced for what you get.
.991 60' 4.36 @ 159 so far..... 6.86 @ 198 trying for more......
533" single carb 235" Harrison 4-link
July 14, 2022, 05:53 AM
Holytown
Why does everyone think a transmission and convertor costs so much money? Links below are for 2200 hp transmission, and the most expensive convertor on FTI's site right now.
Totals come in right under 7,000. BTE is even a little cheaper than that.
It'd be even cheaper if you just built the trans yourself.
On top of that, you could build that motor for 20-25k in your own garage.
July 14, 2022, 07:20 AM
BD104X
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Originally posted by Holytown: Why does everyone think a transmission and convertor costs so much money? Links below are for 2200 hp transmission, and the most expensive convertor on FTI's site right now.
Totals come in right under 7,000. BTE is even a little cheaper than that.
It'd be even cheaper if you just built the trans yourself.
And an overflow catch can. And a cooler. And a cooler fan/shroud. And lines and fittings. And fancy hardware to install. All of this in chrome or carbon of course because we are building a 'top shelf' car. I know that's not $3k, but it's the little $200-300 here and there items that add up quickly.
The whole point of this thread is that the 125-140K seemed high. If you think it is a good buy then feel free to jump on it. I do know some houses and cars etc are asking and some are getting way more than they are worth.
I will say it again the bottom is going to fall out and you want to buy when it is low and sell when prices are up.
That’s just being smart….which really has no place when talking about purchasing a six digit race car. But if ya want to be a baller, ya gots to spend the dough. I struggle to understand the economics of it even for those who plant themselves in the winners circle regularly in big money racing.
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
July 14, 2022, 02:57 PM
undacuva67
You wanna know why ? Disposable income and desire. Some folks live in rented s h i tholes and others have nice homes they own , no different.
July 14, 2022, 03:40 PM
Will Harrison
quote:
Originally posted by Holytown: Why does everyone think a transmission and convertor costs so much money? Links below are for 2200 hp transmission, and the most expensive convertor on FTI's site right now.
Totals come in right under 7,000. BTE is even a little cheaper than that.
It'd be even cheaper if you just built the trans yourself.
On top of that, you could build that motor for 20-25k in your own garage.
A) you're not building that motor even with $0 in labor for 20-25 with NEW parts.
B) the trans and converter you posted are not what it takes to run 6.20-6.40 blown top dragster. And even with again $0 in labor unless you have you're own CNC center and are going to make all the parts yourself, you're going to be in it 10k or more.
Billet bolt together converters are $2500 and up. Big output, big input, billet pump, etc etc is a 6,500-7000 deal. And more if you want it fancy.
What you posted links to are basic fast bracket car parts
.991 60' 4.36 @ 159 so far..... 6.86 @ 198 trying for more......
533" single carb 235" Harrison 4-link
July 14, 2022, 06:50 PM
jenavet
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good deal on this top shelf Top Dragster
Is american really top shelf?? I find them to be very cookie cutter. I would love to see someone with a gazillion dollars go to each builder in the country with an unlimited budget and see who would put together the most cutting edge piece. The past 2 years i have seen 3 brand new cars that i was not impressed with..i feel they appeared rushed and fit and finish was off.Do they work? im sure they do but you could see some are just whipping em out because they are overwhelmed...
July 14, 2022, 06:58 PM
1320racer
Michael, I think it is. I know American has that reputation amongst racers who own other brands but there’s alot of them out there winning in all classes including T/D. They’re not an Undercover but I’d buy one.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1320racer,
July 15, 2022, 05:54 AM
Holytown
quote:
Originally posted by Will Harrison:
quote:
Originally posted by Holytown: Why does everyone think a transmission and convertor costs so much money? Links below are for 2200 hp transmission, and the most expensive convertor on FTI's site right now.
Totals come in right under 7,000. BTE is even a little cheaper than that.
It'd be even cheaper if you just built the trans yourself.
On top of that, you could build that motor for 20-25k in your own garage.
A) you're not building that motor even with $0 in labor for 20-25 with NEW parts.
B) the trans and converter you posted are not what it takes to run 6.20-6.40 blown top dragster. And even with again $0 in labor unless you have you're own CNC center and are going to make all the parts yourself, you're going to be in it 10k or more.
Billet bolt together converters are $2500 and up. Big output, big input, billet pump, etc etc is a 6,500-7000 deal. And more if you want it fancy.
What you posted links to are basic fast bracket car parts
Hate to break it to you buddy, but I already built a motor like that. I'm waiting in line for the 250 blower like everyone else, so I know what it takes to build it.
The transmission I posted is good to 2200 HP. It takes roughly 1900-2000 to run 6.10 in a dragster.
Bolt together convertors are used when you choose to change the stators or turbines regularly to make the hit softer, harder, or more progressive. There is no specific need to have one other than that.
July 15, 2022, 07:31 AM
jenavet
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Hate to break it to you buddy, but I already built a motor like that. I'm waiting in line for the 250 blower like everyone else, so I know what it takes to build it.
I dont think your going to run 6.10 with a 250 blower? Thats more of a touch faster bracket race set up if im not mistaken? but with these all run fields lately that may be all you need.
July 15, 2022, 07:38 AM
Holytown
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Originally posted by jenavet:
quote:
Hate to break it to you buddy, but I already built a motor like that. I'm waiting in line for the 250 blower like everyone else, so I know what it takes to build it.
I dont think your going to run 6.10 with a 250 blower? Thats more of a touch faster bracket race set up if im not mistaken? but with these all run fields lately that may be all you need.
Correct it will not run 6.10 with a 250 blower.
The HP/6.10 reference was to prove the point of 2200 hp glide being more than enough for what we're talking about in this thread
July 15, 2022, 09:37 AM
Big Steve
Buy today, run 6.10 just about anywhere you go tomorrow. $79K turn key. No wait
July 15, 2022, 11:50 AM
1320racer
Steve, retiring or moving to another car?
July 16, 2022, 03:21 PM
wideopen231
So guy who owes A/Fuel car that I work on got heck of deal, Turn key car with extra parts and equipment for 80k, Then again its not a bracket car and only runs 5.30 @ 265. Then the one for sale does not cost near as much to run and you can run for more money.
Cars are like houses you can spend as much as you want and only limit is imagination and how much you can stand.
Bad thing is a good driver in well tuned car costing half can win just as much or more. Then nobody ever said racing made good sense money. Well except those winning a lot of it,LOL
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