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I think what most people are missing is that this has been in the works for quite some time, not just the past 10 days. IRG chose to ignore an offer from "A Group" and opted to sell for less money to Mr Jeffers and so it began. Only time will tell how it all ends.


Seldom does IRG turn down more money. Was there a timing thing involved like they offered long ago?


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Trust me IRG took the most profitable offer. Their only objective was profit, plain and simple.


Maybe there were extended payments in the offer or contingencies. I dunno


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Royce Miller and Jason Peterson are very smart track operators. If they have moved to this new group, I call it a done deal.

Have you watched Don Scott's interview on Monday Morning Racer? https://youtu.be/Kj9LkyaB3aw?t=2096


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There is a list of the current tracks moving to WDRA on this page. All other than south carolina motorplex were IHRA sanctioned in 2022.

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It appears there is a good number of tracks already signed up with WDRA.

And the season is not over yet.

I think some tracks may be waiting until after the 2022 season is done to make or announce a change. Some have bracket finals and some large races and do not want to mess anything up before they run them.


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It appears there is a good number of tracks already signed up with WDRA.

And the season is not over yet.

I think some tracks may be waiting until after the 2022 season is done to make or announce a change. Some have bracket finals and some large races and do not want to mess anything up before they run them.
Lol , it looks like most tracks out of D5 have joined WDRA and we still have the bracket finals to run yet. I was told IHRA was sending 1 person to the BF and that the track needs to make sure they have the personal to run the event.
 
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Looks like there is about 300 tracks on the list here and I think about 20% of those still on the list are no longer running. So probably about 240 tracks actually still running?

30 tracks so far is rather significant and honestly more than I thought would change. And I still think some tracks will wait until after season is over to make the change if they decide to change. That number could jump up to 60-80 or more. Who knows?

At some point we all may have to consider it a serious deal. If it is then we have to start thinking about what is the difference between all three and what is better? Also what about licenses, numbers, insurance, finals etc.

We have all been hearing rumors for years about a new organization now it is starting to look like it may take off.


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From the fact that my local track is on the member list I'm guessing it's free to become a member track. I wonder what the agreement is about one sanctioning body or the other. IHRA is free membership so I'd say tracks will be listed with both.
 
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From the fact that my local track is on the member list I'm guessing it's free to become a member track. I wonder what the agreement is about one sanctioning body or the other. IHRA is free membership so I'd say tracks will be listed with both.


I do not see how they could be a member of both. There is insurance and other things that would make me think one or the other.


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Here’s my take on this information. Everyone of these names listed have either worked for IHRA or had some influence with IHRA. If they have all the answers, or connections, or some magic trick up their sleeve to solve all these sanctioning body problems then why didn’t they use their efforts to make IHRA what they are trying to make us think this new sanction body will be? They had the platform and the opportunity to have created this dream while at the helm of IHRA. So until they produce the golden ticket, that so far no _HRA has been able to produce, this is nothing but a smoke show and a money grab for what assets is still available in the industry. People keep mentioning Summit moving over to them versus IHRA, this new sanction body will need more than Summit’s money. NHRA has support from Summit but it takes Camping World and other “bigger” money to make that boat float. You think some up and coming Sanction body can pull that kind of money? And once again, if they could then why didn’t they do it before now with IHRA when they had the opportunity? I too will be interested in what happens and see where this leads but I’m not getting my hopes up or putting all my eggs in 1 basket.
 
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Here’s my take on this information. Everyone of these names listed have either worked for IHRA or had some influence with IHRA. If they have all the answers, or connections, or some magic trick up their sleeve to solve all these sanctioning body problems then why didn’t they use their efforts to make IHRA what they are trying to make us think this new sanction body will be? They had the platform and the opportunity to have created this dream while at the helm of IHRA. So until they produce the golden ticket, that so far no _HRA has been able to produce, this is nothing but a smoke show and a money grab for what assets is still available in the industry. People keep mentioning Summit moving over to them versus IHRA, this new sanction body will need more than Summit’s money. NHRA has support from Summit but it takes Camping World and other “bigger” money to make that boat float. You think some up and coming Sanction body can pull that kind of money? And once again, if they could then why didn’t they do it before now with IHRA when they had the opportunity? I too will be interested in what happens and see where this leads but I’m not getting my hopes up or putting all my eggs in 1 basket.


I agree with the Golden Ticket Idea you mentioned.

Why didn't they just make IHRA better? The only answer is to get the money. I understand you want the money from all the hard work you put in, but at the same time, wasn't that what IHRA employed them to do?

Isn't that doing the IHRA a disservice not to work your hardest at your job?
 
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I don't think it needs to be said but I will anyways. Those that were at the "helm" of IHRA didn't have a whole lot of say as to how the organization was run when IRG was holding the purse strings. I'm sure they were as dissatisfied with the direction IRG was taking them just as most racers were. The Summit Super Series is what kept them focused and allowed IHRA to continue to exist. Only time will tell how this all plays out but I'm sure there is a lot more to this new organization then what people perceive when you see who and how many tracks have already made the move.
 
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The competition Plus interview with the WDRA guy last night sounded like they're going to be pretty Nit Picky about things.

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WDRA - Someone knows someone high up in the insurance business.

This has been in the works since the lock downs, tracks held hostage over insurance, by the big sanctioning body.

It's all about the insurance - sanctioned

Everyone should know how group insurance works. The more you insure, the less it is per the amount of people insured.

If WDRA offers a better deal on insurance with less exposure, they'll attract a bunch of tracks under their umbrella.

To do that with less under their umbrella to start off, they must know someone with the clout in the insurance business to make it happen initially.

The sponsors are gonna go where the professionalism is like always.

At the rate WDRA is pulling tracks in under their umbrella, they know someone with the clout.

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30 tracks and climbing. Interesting to see how this plays out for them and Jeffers at IHRA.



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Wonder if it will be uncomfortable for some of those tracks at their respective IHRA bracket finals?
Makes you wonder what did Jeffers buy? Didn't he already own a track that was AHRA sanctioned?
 
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WDRA has everything to gain, IHRA what is left (not much)has everything to loose, IF they can get .90 class's and others to follow it will be good for all, the entry fee to win ratio sucks at NHRA, US 131 switched so that tells me they are very happy with what is "said" to come?
 
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Palm Beach was one of my local tracks...IRG still owns it and had the IHRA at the time...their corporate offices are in Palm Beach as well...just like the IHRA, they ran PBIR into the ground...personnel changed constantly just like the IHRA...why?...money, plain and simple...they refused to spend it...now the track is closed and on the market for $50 mil...they had a contract with an industrial developer for $60 mil but they could not get the county approvals they needed...if anyone wonders why previous employees could not make the IHRA better the answer lies with IRG not allowing it...IRG buys everything to flip and make money on an investment basis...they could care less about operating anything which is very apparent...Fern knows...
 
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Where do I buy my WDRA hat and patches?
 
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Does anyone else think WDRA came about partially because of NHRA mask mandates? I do.

That was some clown shyt, I still can't believe how anyone rolled over for that.

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