Bracket Talk
Helmet to roll bar minimum.
January 04, 2021, 05:57 PM
inferno camaroHelmet to roll bar minimum.
When setting in the car how much would be the minimum for the roll bar to be above the helmet?
Mine has always seemed kind of tight but never actually measured it. My old age has me thinking safety more than ever.
January 04, 2021, 07:48 PM
RPROGASThree inches.
However, I've never seen it enforced nor checked during a Tech inspection.
Bob
January 04, 2021, 08:00 PM
inferno camaroOk thanks, I'll do some measuring. I'm not as much worried about tech as my old melon at this point
January 06, 2021, 04:28 PM
GoobThe tech part is the ANY portion of the roll bar / cage that can contact your helmet while you are belted in, must be padded with the 45.x approved padding.
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Dave Cook
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January 06, 2021, 05:52 PM
Michael BeardAt a tech seminar many eons ago, someone asked, "Where should I put roll bar padding?"
"Go sit in your car and flail your head, arms, and legs around. Anywhere you get a bruise, put padding."
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January 06, 2021, 07:21 PM
inferno camaroI have SFI padding all around my head, I'm more worried about possibly not having enough room over my head. SFI
January 06, 2021, 09:36 PM
Goobquote:
Originally posted by inferno camaro:
I have SFI padding all around my head, I'm more worried about possibly not having enough room over my head. SFI
The key point is to remain in the seat, retaining the position of your pelvis is number one.
A properly mounted and utilized restraint system will do that.
Arms and legs will get beaten up, but your torso and head will be safe.
I wear a Snell SA rated open face helmet, because I don't care if my ugly azz face get burnt, but I got good hair.
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Dave Cook
N375
January 06, 2021, 09:59 PM
Curly1I to have SFI padding all around my helmet area. I am not impressed with it, that stuff is hard as a rock and brittle. Tried several different brands and they all stink. Some worse than others but they all were terrible. I would prefer something softer but those are not SFI approved.
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January 06, 2021, 10:03 PM
n5ifiquote:
Originally posted by Goob:
quote:
Originally posted by inferno camaro:
I have SFI padding all around my head, I'm more worried about possibly not having enough room over my head. SFI
The key point is to remain in the seat, retaining the position of your pelvis is number one.
A properly mounted and utilized restraint system will do that.
Arms and legs will get beaten up, but your torso and head will be safe.
I wear a Snell SA rated open face helmet, because I don't care if my ugly azz face get burnt, but I got good hair.
hahaha that's funny
January 07, 2021, 06:00 AM
Curly1I like to have several inches of clearance away from my head on top and I also tighten heck out of my belts.
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January 07, 2021, 03:45 PM
Goobquote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
I to have SFI padding all around my helmet area. I am not impressed with it, that stuff is hard as a rock and brittle. Tried several different brands and they all stink. Some worse than others but they all were terrible. I would prefer something softer but those are not SFI approved.
"Soft" doesn't provide the impact absorption you need. Swing that helmet with a 12# weight in it against the soft pad, then the SFI pad.
My helmet cannot reach any bar with my neck attached. Just lucky in the setup I guess.
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Dave Cook
N375
January 07, 2021, 04:15 PM
Curly1Hard as a rock sure does not give much protection........
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Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue.
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January 07, 2021, 04:16 PM
Phil DeesGoob, belts stretch way more than most think they will.
January 07, 2021, 05:54 PM
Buckyquote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
Hard as a rock sure does not give much protection........
I agree. Seems like somewhere between old style and the sfi stuff would provide better protection.
3" above I don't think I have ever had in even the most generous cages.
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
January 07, 2021, 07:22 PM
inferno camaroquote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
I to have SFI padding all around my helmet area. I am not impressed with it, that stuff is hard as a rock and brittle. Tried several different brands and they all stink. Some worse than others but they all were terrible. I would prefer something softer but those are not SFI approved.
My thoughts exactly, when I got it I was thinking this crap is no softer than the pipe.
January 07, 2021, 07:26 PM
inferno camaroquote:
Originally posted by Goob:
quote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
I to have SFI padding all around my helmet area. I am not impressed with it, that stuff is hard as a rock and brittle. Tried several different brands and they all stink. Some worse than others but they all were terrible. I would prefer something softer but those are not SFI approved.
"Soft" doesn't provide the impact absorption you need. Swing that helmet with a 12# weight in it against the soft pad, then the SFI pad.
My helmet cannot reach any bar with my neck attached. Just lucky in the setup I guess.
I thought the cage had to be only a certain distance from you in the car? I would think that could be really hard on the neck unless you have a restraint system for your hair.
January 08, 2021, 06:01 AM
Curly1quote:
Originally posted by inferno camaro:
quote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
I to have SFI padding all around my helmet area. I am not impressed with it, that stuff is hard as a rock and brittle. Tried several different brands and they all stink. Some worse than others but they all were terrible. I would prefer something softer but those are not SFI approved.
My thoughts exactly, when I got it I was thinking this crap is no softer than the pipe.
Yes, I used the junk to try to be legal but I am not impressed with the junk. It is hard and brittle so you can heat it or what ever but it really does not bend well with out breaking.
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-a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge.
Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue.
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January 08, 2021, 07:49 AM
RPROGASquote:
it really does not bend well with out breaking.
I used a heat gun (hair dryer) to soften the padding.
Bob
January 08, 2021, 08:37 AM
CURTIS REEDquote:
Originally posted by RPROGAS:
quote:
it really does not bend well with out breaking.
I used a heat gun (hair dryer) to soften the padding.
Bob
I did the same thing and used Jaz brand padding. It shaped well and hasn't cracked at all.
January 08, 2021, 09:19 AM
Buckyquote:
Originally posted by RPROGAS:
quote:
it really does not bend well with out breaking.
I used a heat gun (hair dryer) to soften the padding.
Bob
We did that with the jr size for my son's car. Most of it still cracked in that case.
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