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Originally posted by Curly1:
Problem with a diesel if you get one with under 100,000 miles they are stupid expensive.

another clueless comment!

Dang it I have to agree with ED well in a way. Everything is stupid expensive. From my research and its been a lot past week. Diesel is a little more expensive than comparable gas.

Again both have positive and negative. Better mileage,more TQ and longer life. Then you have ungodly repair cost if something major breaks,but hey nothing is cheap to fix now day.

Side note looks like day late and 6000 short on truck I was going to look at. Well they raised price of truck 6000 over original ad and looks like they have a pending sell. Oh well if don't get it wasn't meant to be.

Get a gas burner.

The additional cost of diesel + repairs + additional maintenance items' cost compared to the gas engine and use of a little more fuel offsets itself.

Towing power isn't a big deal to me. If it is a deal breaker get the diesel. But just prepare for the $$$.

I've got an old Ford, 7.3. Supposedly the best Ford pickup diesel ever. However, it's gutless, it's loud, doesn't tow any better than a same year model 6.8L gas, and worst of all (since it's way out of warranty) is that everything I do, oil changes, air filter, fuel filter, etc, costs 2x more than if it were a 6.8. And it's much more complex so there's considerably more to go wrong. It's heavier so it wears tires faster. $1000 set of tires every 35,000-40,000 miles (last set was 22,000 mi). It will be my last diesel. And consider this: Mine don't use DEF, so DEF adds yet another operating cost. I work on Tier 4 diesel stuff at work and it's an absolute nightmare. Manufacturers don't want to replace stuff under warranty, they want you to fix stuff (DEF headers) and there's no information as to HOW to fix the stuff, very very little.

On the GM stuff, we have a '21 duramax 3500 ordered/ain't got it yet (work truck which I will not be in operation of thank goodness). Ugliest truck on the road and I used to say that toyota took that prize. We had an older duramax. Had 122,000 when they dumped it. The place I was working for had to put $20,000 worth of repairs into the truck. Injectors, HP pump, rails, alternator, transmission, brakes way too often, a/c components, harnesses, fuel lines, lift pump, and a bunch of other stuff--in 4 years' time. I will never ever own a duramax because of that truck. Uncomfortable to drive. Had lots of power but came at a cost (obviously). Allison transmission couldn't decide what gear it wanted to be in, and when rebuild time came, $5100 to rebuild it. But in defense, we asked the shop to beef it up because the truck never moved unless it had the gooseneck hooked to it. No DEF on that truck either....would've been another expense. All it takes is a tank of bad def or a drop or two of diesel in the def tank, and you're spending LOTS of money. I deal with it at work all the time.

If you tow a race car in a trailer you want diesel power.

Don't be "prepare for the $$$" and has not been "stupid expensive"

Do your homework and buy the right truck not the best deal.

Again, my 3500 Denali has been trouble free. No issues either pulling 14,000+ lbs. down the road and for those that don't know, the only difference between a 2500 Duramax and a 3500 Duramax SRW is the rear leaf springs so if you buy a 2500 my advice is to swap out the leaf springs for the 3500 SRW leaf springs.

IIRC, the 2500 Duramax has 7000 lb. rated springs, the 3500 SRW has 9000 and the Dually has 12,000.

Gets new OEM brakes and tires every 75,000 and got new OEM shocks, glow plugs and flushed the coolant at 200,000. Nothing else but fuel, oil and trans filters.

Drives like a Cadillac and two friends recently have driven it for hundreds of miles and say it drives like new too. Also many compliments on it's look since new.

Kind of agree Ed. Then what good is right truck if can not afford to race the car? Not everybody has your income dude.

Self employed means you have to be some what conservative at times. Hard to spend what you don't have even if I have done it more times then care to count. Stretching is one thing breaking is another.

My income has nothing to do with YOUR wanting to buy a 2015-2018 Chevy diesel truck. My comments here just dispel the myth, rumor and hearsay of owning one.

I will reinforce other comments that once you experience towing with Diesel power you will be sold and converted. There is simply nothing better. No shifting, no winding up, no strain, just roll along smoothly and easily.

In addition, I will reinforce the comments about the cost of maintenance. For my personal experience, it was a non-issue. The Diesel package does have increased cost over a gas engine but spread out over time it is minor and easily offset by the performance.

A data point of one reasonably new truck age wise is not statistically going to change the experience of many when it comes to diesels. Obviously they pull better and are meant for it. But change one, or several injectors, or a pump or do any of the regular maintenance that you have with a gas, and you will see higher, sometimes much higher costs. For folks that may be purchasing a 5 year old or older truck, they can be expecting repairs gas or diesel. The repairs will hurt more with the diesel. Oil burners are great for some, but not needed for everyone.

The OP says he wants a 2015-2018 chevy diesel NOT gas truck, that's the discussion!

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Originally posted by wideopen231:
While not happy about it in cpl ways. I am going to have to get a newer truck.

Business almost requires it and race trailer not towing it self.
Back and forth on diesel or gas. Diesel better mileage and more towing power. Also cost out ying yang for repairs .

Gas cheaper to maintain. Easier if I am one doing repair and/or cheaper.

Leaning towards diesel for above reasons and better value for resale.

So would like to hear from some of you who have 2500 Chevrolet with duramax. Issues likes dislikes. Mileage towing,maintenance and anything to avoid would be great.

Oh yea looking AT 2015 THRU 2018 and probably closer to 15 with budget I have to work with.

Seems like both to me.

Was totally open at first. More and more research and lots of things point to diesel as best deal. Hey for everyday running gas whens hands down. Towing diesel wins IMO and seems lots of others.Not just Ed on side of diesel,if so I wouldn't be as close to pulling trigger. Just got to find what will fit best into my deal.

Hey 30 to 35k use not to be trigger to pull.Now days for me its BIG.

Thanks for replys and suggestions all.

Was at the stealership last year dropping off sons GMC Sierra for work. Here parked next to the building is an 2018 3500 Denali dually Had 12K miles on it. Loaded. Every panel on the truck had damage. $58K. You guys are on crack. Must of been a runner truck.

Chris, it will be a business expense so it will help you on your taxes.

My day job is being a 26 year tech at a Chevy dealer. I personally won't ever own a truck newer than 2013. Gassers have problems and diesels are 50/50 on whether they will need a complete fuel system. $13-$15K is on par with every place I've seen for a cp4 Duramax fuel system. I have an '04 Dmax and love it. With that said, last year I came home 10 hours from a race and jumped out of my Detroit Diesel S60 toter hauling 50K#'s into my Dmax to run around town...….and thought my Dmax was horribly slow.....lol.

You think these little trucks have issues with SCR/DEF/REGEN issues. Step into the semi market.

Remember when the DEF came out.. Hello derate. Could not even perform a forced regen >> Wrecker.

Prior to my 2011 Duramax I had another 2500 HD with the 496 inch gas motor. We have a big hill called the Grapevine going north and it's heavily traf****ed. Going up with the gas motor if I got stuck behind a big truck going 35 I was stuck. After getting the duramax I found that even with a bigger trailer there was no more getting stuck. I could just pull out and speed up. Absolutely no comparison.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Chris, it will be a business expense so it will help you on your taxes.

Yea and will be good size of them too. Thought only big on new.Nope. The percentage used in business is percentage of deduction. Just like advertisement is deduction. Want to guess who is advertising on car? LOL

Upside is signed contract another house build today so feeling better about pulling trigger. Although will not be as big cash flow since going to be a true contractor and not a guy who does most the work and hires a few things out. Besides he who works least seems to be he who makes most in this business.

IDK about other places but so. florida truck prices are nuts if you can find something you want. Used truck prices here don't even make any sense. Better off buying new if you can find a truck.
That being said i've had a 06 duramax since 09. its been pretty solid. Problem is they are old and hard to find with decent miles but if i could find a 06-07 crew cab 4x4 with decent miles i would buy another one in a heart beat. No def and very little emissions. Mine had a programmer when i bought it. I've put a 160k on it so the truck having a programmer isn't necessarily a problem. If the trucks been beat to hell it will be obvious.

Bought a 2007 LBZ 2wd, crew cab from a dealer in FL. about 2+ years ago. 1 owner central Texas truck w/around 170K+ miles.

Drove it home to N.E. and it now has 230K plus on it. Towing a 24 ft trailer occasionally, and driving it as a daily driver. Have had up to 23 mpg every now and then, and have also put a few bucks into it over the last 6 mo. or so (mostly fuel system), but....absolutely NO regrets. My second Duramax (1st was an LB7), and would probably buy another!

BTW, 2wd works better for towing w/a 3.73 ratio, vs/ 4.11 for your 4wd

What is your estimated mileage a year for this truck?