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Hypothetical Big Buck race question

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September 28, 2018, 04:32 PM
Tom396
Hypothetical Big Buck race question
I love hypothetical questions/polls.<BR><BR>Here's one. Would a <I>guaranteed</I> Million Dollar payout race fill to 500 entries, with a cap of 500 entries, and a $2,000 entry fee and $500 b*yback?<BR><BR>The question is not would <B>you</B> enter. The question is whether it would fill to 500. Take care. Tom WorthingtonWould a guaranteed million dollar race fill a 500 car field?NoYesNo idea


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September 28, 2018, 05:13 PM
J178RED
A good friend who races these 2k entry Big Buck races has told me the largest field has been 335 entries . There is more entries racing the warm up and day after stuff but that number is those who are going for the Big Bucks... It should real funny see what happens in 2019 , I be watching from my computer unless I win a free entry...LOL

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September 28, 2018, 10:19 PM
Bucky
Who would pony up to put on a race like that with all the risk?


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September 28, 2018, 10:54 PM
Tom396
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
Who would pony up to put on a race like that with all the risk?


Well, if the majority of bracket racers say no, I would imagine the answer is no one.

But how about we "assume" sponsors or some other act of God makes it possible, for the purpose of this hypothetical question? Take care. Tom Worthington


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September 30, 2018, 08:33 AM
C Hodge
If you look at the SFG 500 race he is upping it 100,000 each year and will end up paying 1 million. For less than 2,000. Million has been around along time and it’s falling behind the other big races. Back in the Day you had a time trial each day and a buyback. Fast forward to 2018 if you test on Wednesday then you don’t get a time trial for any 25k and no buybacks. Sorry but one shot in the dark each day I’ll not go until something changes. Now the million is 2,000 entry and one time shot got cut out a few years ago but still have a buyback. The million is going backwards.At first I didn’t like the SFG races because you had to pre enter and I can’t do that because I never know when I’ll be in town. He’s opened them up now so I’m going to run some of them next year. SFG to the front !!!!
September 30, 2018, 09:35 AM
Richard Hammond
quote:
Originally posted by C Hodge:
If you look at the SFG 500 race he is upping it 100,000 each year and will end up paying 1 million. For less than 2,000. Million has been around along time and it’s falling behind the other big races. Back in the Day you had a time trial each day and a buyback. Fast forward to 2018 if you test on Wednesday then you don’t get a time trial for any 25k and no buybacks. Sorry but one shot in the dark each day I’ll not go until something changes. Now the million is 2,000 entry and one time shot got cut out a few years ago but still have a buyback. The million is going backwards.At first I didn’t like the SFG races because you had to pre enter and I can’t do that because I never know when I’ll be in town. He’s opened them up now so I’m going to run some of them next year. SFG to the front !!!!


The SFG 500 will be capped at 900K. Kyle said out of respect to the 2 million races already being run. The attendance for the triple 25s at the million have been so high that they couldn't do buybacks. This race has been on my bucket list since day 1.
September 30, 2018, 10:16 AM
WHOMPWHOMP
All this is dependent on the economy....
September 30, 2018, 10:19 AM
markemark
Looking at the fliers for the Million this year and the SFG 500 next year I think they both offer a great value for the racer that wants to compete in the largest payouts. Both are $500 buy back and both pay back your entry fee if winning 4th round.

This year I liked the races in the $50K to $100k to win format especially when all three days are offered at the same winning purse. I believe (but I could be wrong) that the total purse in these races is large enough in the quarters that it will generate a split. In the races that are less to win I believe splitting might take getting to the semis or finals to happen if at all.
September 30, 2018, 04:05 PM
Tom396
I voted no just because I don't think offering more money would change participation, at this point. I mean, are there really many folks out there that wouldn't ante up $2,000 to enter the current million dollar races that would if the purse was guaranteed? Take care. Tom Worthington


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September 30, 2018, 06:56 PM
jimv245
I hate to tell you but the Million is NOT falling backwards. The Thursday, Friday and Sunday races have had over 600 entries for the last three years. The Million entry is steep for most, but will be in the neighborhood of 250-260 entries like always.
Will it ever make it to 500? Probably not, but it's still one of the best races there is


Jim Gleason
September 30, 2018, 07:05 PM
SP 124X
quote:
Originally posted by jimv245:
I hate to tell you but the Million is NOT falling backwards. The Thursday, Friday and Sunday races have had over 600 entries for the last three years. The Million entry is steep for most, but will be in the neighborhood of 250-260 entries like always.
Will it ever make it to 500? Probably not, but it's still one of the best races there is


With all these new races I'm very interested to see what happens at the million this year. $675 for 3 25s and possibly 600 cars is no deal these days.


Denis LeBlanc

September 30, 2018, 11:27 PM
Tom396
Again, I'm not sure how it got so twisted, but my original question was about how the current million dollar race formula would be impacted by a guaranteed payout. And again, I personally don't see it making a significant difference. Do you? Take care. Tom Worthington


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October 01, 2018, 07:28 AM
Richard Hammond
quote:
Originally posted by ActionRacingPhotos:
quote:
Originally posted by jimv245:
I hate to tell you but the Million is NOT falling backwards. The Thursday, Friday and Sunday races have had over 600 entries for the last three years. The Million entry is steep for most, but will be in the neighborhood of 250-260 entries like always.
Will it ever make it to 500? Probably not, but it's still one of the best races there is


With all these new races I'm very interested to see what happens at the million this year. $675 for 3 25s and possibly 600 cars is no deal these days.


Well compared to the SFG races you are right. But it’s still a great big money race to attend. You could have a few people that make enough money at Thursday’s or Fridays race to enter into the million.
October 04, 2018, 04:45 PM
wideopen231
only 409 for 20k at super bowl of bracket today. Nope no way 500 would be there for million.

Show them the money they will come!




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October 04, 2018, 06:32 PM
442OLDS
So many people want the GUARANTEED purse of $1,000,000.

Then they get to the later rounds and want to start splitting anyways.

To answer the question that was originally asked,I don't see how the guaranteed payout would make any difference.
October 07, 2018, 08:41 AM
wideopen231
569 cars in Saturdays super bowl for 100k.Only problem I see with a 1,000,000.00 guaranteed deal is if you limit number of cars. I wouldn't book it any place with limited parking or curfew,because its going to be LONG race.




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October 11, 2018, 09:12 AM
Matrix
It may not fill but I think it would get close especially since they are letting you make payments to enter these races. Give the racers a year or more out to get their money together and I think you could see a miracle happen


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October 11, 2018, 02:20 PM
markemark
quote:
Originally posted by wideopen231:
569 cars in Saturdays super bowl for 100k.Only problem I see with a 1,000,000.00 guaranteed deal is if you limit number of cars. I wouldn't book it any place with limited parking or curfew,because its going to be LONG race.


There were so many there at the SuperBowl that by Friday they were parked / pitted outside the racer entry gate.

Martin 131 and Dragway 42 SFG events had much more parking available.