April 19, 2022, 01:27 PM
DragRaceResultsPit accident
I was there shortly after the crash. There was a stop sign on both sides of that "cross road" It's not a 4 way stop.
Kevin's truck moved that 4x4 about 50ft. You make the call on what the speed was. Probably could have been avoided by both parties. Truck runs stop sign. Luv probably going to quick.
He didn't have seat belts on as this was the return road from the top of the track coming down into the pits.
He smacked the steering wheel with his forehead which required about 30 stitches and his right lower leg is pretty bad.
We helped unload the truck in his pits a he was right next to us. fixable but a mess.
I spoke to him yesterday evening as they just got home and he has an appointment for the leg Friday.
SL...
April 19, 2022, 05:06 PM
Larry ScarthHey Scott, nice seeing you at the Fling. Darn we got gray....lol
When everything is coming your way, your probably in the wrong lane.
April 19, 2022, 05:07 PM
Larry ScarthOh yes it is Tom, I'm proof, believe me.
When everything is coming your way, your probably in the wrong lane.
April 19, 2022, 07:35 PM
Canted Valvequote:
Darn we got gray....lol
Agh, gray is for kids. Wait til it turns white!
Illegitimi non carborundum
April 20, 2022, 08:46 AM
SlyFoxquote:
Originally posted by Toad1:
They will never seek "who is at fault", they, the insurance company for the track. wants to get settled, period.
I know you are a former track owner, and I'm sure you are correct, but if one driver ran a stop sign and the other was likely speeding, why would the track be responsible for anything? Our legal system is really jacked up.
Mike
April 20, 2022, 11:46 AM
markemarkTruck has insurance for their damages. Maybe Kevin had insurance on his race truck. Perhaps DRAW can offer Kevin some help if needed with personal medical costs.
April 20, 2022, 12:59 PM
Al AlguireEric Bells SS/AH car is currently being fitted with a carbon front end and being converted to a 4 speed, FWIW
Yes there is a most certainly a stop sign there at the main gate. But as stated it appears the Luv was likely traveling at a fairly high rate of speed for being in the pits, speed limit is 15 and they announce it frequently. But the Luv was double entered and getting back for the other driver as they were both going rounds. Sucks for sure for both, it is pretty well lit there. Dodge should not have run the stop sign but as stated the Luv was likely running a bit to fast and no lights. Crappy deal all around for sure
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
Marcus Tullius Cicero
May 03, 2022, 09:45 AM
CURTIS REEDWow, sounds like Vegas can be a dangerous place to race when you're in the pits. Nothing against the track though. These two accidents aren't related other than the place they happened. Keep yourself safe out there guys.
https://www.classracer.com/cla...owthread.php?t=82011I hope Mr. Pollard is healing up and feeling better.
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May 03, 2022, 12:37 PM
SlyFoxIt's way past time to seriously limit how many support vehicles are allowed in the pit area at any race track, what they are used for, and who is operating them.
Mike
May 03, 2022, 12:41 PM
Toad1Unless NHRA has changed insurance policies, which I doubt, each injured person will have to use their own medical insurance, if they have it.
Most track policies are written for "Excess Medical Coverage", meaning your insurance will pay first, if your carrier thinks they can get some money back because of personal responsibility by someone else, they will contact that guy's insurance company and what medical insurance doesn't pay.."usually" track event insurance will cover.
Not sure on a "leased track" or the accident "not being in a restricted area" will affect coverages. Track insurance will contact everyone right away but will be the last to pay anything.
Like I said, things may have changed from the 16 years I bought race track event insurance but I doubt it has better or easier to recover insurance proceeds.
Hope everyone involved heals fast, cars can be fixed.
Jok
May 03, 2022, 02:53 PM
Goobquote:
Originally posted by SlyFox:
It's way past time to seriously limit how many support vehicles are allowed in the pit area at any race track, what they are used for, and who is operating them.
Those rules are already in place.
See "enforcement"
"ABSOLUTELY no wheeled vehicles may be operated on the premises by anyone without a license to drive, and not in support of an entered racer."
Proof of insurance on your pit support vehicle(s) REQUIRED
Entered racer is responsible for his entire operation and personnel or spectators.
It has always seemed crystal clear to me, and YES, I do struggle telling my grandkids they can't do what half the other kids at the track are doing, but we're NOT the people who will F*&k it up for everyone else.
Respectfully, that solution you suggest is as dumb as thinking more gun laws will prevent crime, or different immigration laws will stop illegal immigration. Just sayin'
"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
Dave Cook
N375
May 03, 2022, 02:56 PM
GoobPeople always looking for others to cure irresponsible behaviors just crack me up.
"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
Dave Cook
N375
May 03, 2022, 03:14 PM
Hotrod CorvetteIt comes down to the racers themselves. They bring the pit vehicles, their family, friends, and let everyone drive them all over the place. And if you look, quite a few racers are driving their pit vehicles like morons too.
Everyone seems to throw the rules of the road out the window once they get inside the pits. They all think they have the right-a-way.
Burt
I'm So Proud To Be An American And Not A Democrat...
May 03, 2022, 10:51 PM
Big Stevequote:
Originally posted by Toad1:
Unless NHRA has changed insurance policies, which I doubt, each injured person will have to use their own medical insurance, if they have it.
Most track policies are written for "Excess Medical Coverage", meaning your insurance will pay first, if your carrier thinks they can get some money back because of personal responsibility by someone else, they will contact that guy's insurance company and what medical insurance doesn't pay.."usually" track event insurance will cover.
Not sure on a "leased track" or the accident "not being in a restricted area" will affect coverages. Track insurance will contact everyone right away but will be the last to pay anything.
Like I said, things may have changed from the 16 years I bought race track event insurance but I doubt it has better or easier to recover insurance proceeds.
Hope everyone involved heals fast, cars can be fixed.
Jok
When my son got hurt at the Houston nationals last year, as crew person NHRAs insurance sent him a check for $5K, that was the deductible on his primary medical insurance. Our division director got him in touch with the right person in Glendora, filled out the paper work and had a check made out to him about 6 weeks later.
May 04, 2022, 08:39 AM
SlyFoxquote:
Originally posted by Goob:
Respectfully, that solution you suggest is as dumb as thinking more gun laws will prevent crime, or different immigration laws will stop illegal immigration. Just sayin'
Respectfully, go back and read my post. I didn't suggest making more rules. I suggested limiting and restricting, which would be accomplished by enforcing the rules already in place.
As long as we're being totally honest with each other, why do you need a golf cart or a four-wheeler or a scooter or anything else at the race track, unless you have a race vehicle that needs to be towed in the pit area? It's a 1/4 mile from one end of a drag strip to the other, which is a 5-minute walk at a snail's pace.
People too damn lazy to walk just crack me up.
Mike
May 04, 2022, 09:09 AM
Buckyquote:
Originally posted by SlyFox:
quote:
Originally posted by Goob:
Respectfully, that solution you suggest is as dumb as thinking more gun laws will prevent crime, or different immigration laws will stop illegal immigration. Just sayin'
Respectfully, go back and read my post. I didn't suggest making more rules. I suggested limiting and restricting, which would be accomplished by enforcing the rules already in place.
As long as we're being totally honest with each other, why do you need a golf cart or a four-wheeler or a scooter or anything else at the race track, unless you have a race vehicle that needs to be towed in the pit area? It's a 1/4 mile from one end of a drag strip to the other, which is a 5-minute walk at a snail's pace.
People too damn lazy to walk just crack me up.
Not everyone can realistically walk that. Plus, when you have family helping and you are going rounds, do you wait for them in the lanes? Your solution isn’t very inclusive when it comes to difficulty walking that much during a race day.
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
May 04, 2022, 09:55 AM
SlyFoxI typically go to the races alone. I operate a bracket car with no assistance, and I walk everywhere I go. I could easily afford a golf cart, and a bigger trailer to accommodate it, and a bigger truck to pull it all - but I'm good with walking. Guess I was just raised different.
Mike
May 04, 2022, 03:49 PM
Goobquote:
Originally posted by SlyFox:
quote:
Originally posted by Goob:
Respectfully, that solution you suggest is as dumb as thinking more gun laws will prevent crime, or different immigration laws will stop illegal immigration. Just sayin'
Respectfully, go back and read my post. I didn't suggest making more rules. I suggested limiting and restricting, which would be accomplished by enforcing the rules already in place.
As long as we're being totally honest with each other, why do you need a golf cart or a four-wheeler or a scooter or anything else at the race track, unless you have a race vehicle that needs to be towed in the pit area? It's a 1/4 mile from one end of a drag strip to the other, which is a 5-minute walk at a snail's pace.
People too damn lazy to walk just crack me up.
They are / have been limited and restricted. Now what?
"Need" a golf cart? No.
"Want" a golf cart because I can have one.
Car needs towed or pulled into the trailer?
It's a long walk to the buyback window for an old man, is that good enough reason?
I just try to make the racetrack experience enjoyable for anyone who might be unfortunate enough to accompany me anywhere.
"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
Dave Cook
N375
May 05, 2022, 03:34 PM
Goobquote:
Dodge should not have run the stop sign but as stated the Luv was likely running a bit to fast and no lights
But, at least one driver, regardless of speed, had a more than reasonable expectation to have Right-of-Way anyplace on the grounds.
To me, this is all on the spectator vehicle.
Kevin and his truck are both seriously bad a$$.
Hope the best for him.
"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."
Dave Cook
N375
May 05, 2022, 03:55 PM
ferndaleflyerI am 81 and walk most of the time but I do have a scooter if I need it or I get lazy. When I started all tracks were 1/4 and everyone walked.
