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As our drag race drivers age, one of the comments is, "finish the race sooner" "let us get home at a reasonable hour"
In order to make that happen I suggest we do away with the water box burnout. Instead, it will be like the old days, one or two dry hops and race. No reversing, always a forward motion. This is all cars including rails. If you watch videos from the old days that was the norm. And with today's tires and track prep I think the performance would be about the same. Plus, I think it could shorten the race day by a considerable time and think of the wear on the equipment that will be eliminated.


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That would work for me and most bracket door cars…..

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I vote NO!

The burnout is the coolest thing we do and more important, cleans the tires which assure us the best possible track adhesion.

That said, I look forward to racing and not one of the few complaining that they want to finish sooner. The truth is they are always the ones that will finish sooner because they have no chance of winning the race. My son and I are often the last ones to leave the track because we WIN and if it’s very late we either leave from the track for work the next morning if local or take Monday off of traveling.

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I can do a burnout quicker than someone can do 2 dry hops

Would make more sense to start a timer once the cars get the go ahead in the water box until they are pre staged, similar to auto start

It seems these days drivers wanna stop after their burnout and eat a sandwich and check Facebook before they pre stage
 
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I miss the days of racing until 1 o-clock in the morning. Of course you can still do that at Norwalk but hear in Jersey, you have a group of people that do not like the noise and things changed. Look at the guy who owned the track in the Hamptons NY. He could only run his track for 5-6 hours on the weekend. They drove him out of business.

BTW, no burnout is really no prep racing.





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Racing is what I do for fun so getting home at early isn't something that I think about.

That said dragsters are the biggest problem when it comes to the time to run a show then Super Pro in general because of resetting delay boxes and such. We can run 3 times as many footbrake cars in the time it takes to run a round of S/P.



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I miss the days of racing until 1 o-clock in the morning.

I remember those days at Islsnd too. Of course those days the cars/trailers when back up into Rt.46 waiting to get in. Long gone!
 
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When 500 cars are on the property, sometimes getting done "sooner" is not realistic.

While Ed thinks ya can make it to work on Mondays...realistically that won't and happen very often when doing "real" travel for these type races. May not make it by Tuesday for that matter when going to Vegas, and other BIG races.
 
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It was just a brainstorming idea. I also like the suggestion of having a timer running after being given the ready signal.


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If burnouts are the concern, just require no one does over the line burnouts.

Been 4.50's consistently in dragsters in the past, and never burned over the line.
 
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For me, I like a sense of urgency as the race round begins. I often point to the way Larry Croff and Nick Duty ran Texas Raceway and NorthStar Raceway.
One pair on the line, one pair in the water, several pair at the ready. Everyone is on point and on task. No diddy dalling, no holding up the program, be ready and let's go! If you demonstrated anything that held up the program, you would receive a "talk" with Larry and you would be ready nettime. He was respected and everyone knew what to expect. I had the privledge of some high school teaches like that. Their reputation was one of no non-sense and do your work.


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For me, I like a sense of urgency as the race round begins. I often point to the way Larry Croff and Nick Duty ran Texas Raceway and NorthStar Raceway.
One pair on the line, one pair in the water, several pair at the ready. Everyone is on point and on task. No diddy dalling, no holding up the program, be ready and let's go! If you demonstrated anything that held up the program, you would receive a "talk" with Larry and you would be ready nettime. He was respected and everyone knew what to expect. I had the privledge of some high school teaches like that. Their reputation was one of no non-sense and do your work.


Absolutely!!! When Larry got on the PA and said "Listen up, Super Pro to the lanes" you better go because he would call next class and go block off staging lanes. You were not in there you were done.
And no silly staging games or burn downs. You were there to race. You do your burn out, stage and race. There was a 12 o Clock curfew and they were not going to miss it because of silly little games.
There were some who got pissed because he shut them down but overall they ran more cars down the track per hour than others and got it over with. Plus when it is 109* in the shade you do not want to be out there any longer than you have to.

One of the things I have noticed that really takes a long time is a few racers who will take 5 minutes to stage, they do a burn out, then back up open the car door and air it out for a while and then want to play silly little games to stage last. They can run 8 or more pairs of cars in same time it takes for the few who think the World revolves around them. It is up to the track to put a stop to that or the whole program runs slow.


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When 500 cars are on the property, sometimes getting done "sooner" is not realistic.

While Ed thinks ya can make it to work on Mondays...realistically that won't and happen very often when doing "real" travel for these type races. May not make it by Tuesday for that matter when going to Vegas, and other BIG races.

I can make it to work on Monday if I want from anywhere east of the Mississippi. Also not ever going to Vegas unless we are in contention for the world championship which won't be anytime soon. Further, we race at the BIGGEST race in the country with over 900 cars on the property competing aka the BIG GO!
 
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Larry, you are dead on with the timer needed!
 
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I vote NO on the timer too!-

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The big NO for many Ed. Norwalk has had that many for a regular paying bracket race or holloween race...don't kid yourself.

When you start "traveling" BIG $ you will get it. Many travel more in 2 months than you and your boy will all year long.

East of the Mississippi is a small part of the country for alot that do actually travel. How about the Williams? Theydo it from Florida all year long!
 
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900+ racers disagree with you.

The BIG Go is the biggest and the best! Everybody whos anybody competes at this event including some of the best BIG $ bracket racers in the country. That said, there's a whole lot of BIG $ bracket races east of the Mississippi and in fact the majority of them.

The Williams are professional bracket racers, we are not. We make far more money working for a living.
 
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A timer would be fine, as would a ban on any "helpers" past the head of staging. If you can't put your car in the water box without a helper or you can't find the staging beams without a helper, you need to go practice somewhere else and then come back when you know what you're doing.


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Sly, good idea.


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