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I have been around bracket racing since i was 16 years old. I am 52 now. I have never been at a track or witness anything other then maybe a word or a push... Virginia motorsports track is my home track. They had an issue last night that Police and Medical had to be called in. Track had to close after said event... I am just wondering and i thing i already know if anyone has seen that type of event happen at a bracket race. Pretty sure i already know the answer but just asking. This was the post VMP made to day... Crazy to me they feel they need to apologize.

"Virginia Motorsports Park would like to apologize for the event being canceled around the 8pm hour last evening due to the incident in the pit area that required law enforcement to become involved along with a number of medical needs to be met. We do not condone in this type of behavior and we will work harder to ensure that we are providing family friendly events much like we have in the past. A thank you goes out to all of the Dinwiddie Co. Sheriffs Department, VA State Patrol, AMR, Dinwiddie Co. EMS and the other medical teams who responded to last night's incident."


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I have a friend that had a high 4 second Fox body that asked for my to help at a couple of grudge events. The performance was impressive but after 2 events I told my buddy this circus is not for me, just give me a bracket race any day and I will be happy.
 
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Absolutely, Brian! I have seen a little bit of "hot and bothered" at a bracket race, but nothing compared to Grudge Racing. I have only once seen a gun drawn and banished in the burnout area at a dragstrip, and sure enough, it was a Grudge Race. I was only there because there was also bracket racing going on also (outlaw track close to me). The bracket racers were staying close to their cars, back in the staging lanes. It really made me think. But then the time I experienced "hot and bothered" at a bracket race (only) made me think too. Take care. Tom Worthington


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It is rapidly changing around here, the crowds are getting bad. Tonight I was testing a car I come back and there was a truck parked in my pit. They called over the PA for an hour for him to move it. Finally I got a floor jack and some guys and moved it so I could get my car in. The ghetto biotch comes back and starts yelling and threatening me because I moved his junk. He was wanting to start shyt. They had cars parked in the lanes to the staging lanes blocking them off and 50 people up on the starting line.
Plus we never used to have to worry about our stuff while we were racing. Now things are changing.


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What!? They invite the ghetto crowd in and there is a stabbing? Surprising.


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I remember one incident at Capitol years ago where the tower was about torn down and, if my memory serves me right, around 30 people were arrested. That was probably 40 years ago. Although I have never seen any trouble Piedmonts Big Dog night is a bomb getting ready to explode. Its a good show but that entitled group is there so mind your manners.
 
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Shooting, stabbing, gunfights, yep sounds like the bracket racing that I cut my teeth on. When I started racing, it was a little rougher than it is now. I saw a stabbing at an IHRA national event.
 
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That’s were the CASH MONEY is for the tracks though….pocketing 20k minimum on a decent night..
 
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That’s were the CASH MONEY is for the tracks though….pocketing 20k minimum on a decent night..


This!

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I guess we're lucky they don't teach these savages math anymore, or they'd be at the bracket races too.


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That’s were the CASH MONEY is for the tracks though….pocketing 20k minimum on a decent night..


Curious how that adds up. Ticket sales. Entries. Food sales. What's the break down?


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The people who attend these events go there hoping some **** will break out.


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I wonder how this affects these tracks with their insurance, I can’t believe they let so many people in the burn out box area. Even though this violence happened in the pits this is very bad for the sport. I wonder if other tracks well continue this type of event.


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That’s were the CASH MONEY is for the tracks though….pocketing 20k minimum on a decent night..


Curious how that adds up. Ticket sales. Entries. Food sales. What's the break down?
All of the above an they pay ZERO out unlike a bracket race…
 
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Originally posted by Bucky:
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Originally posted by WHOMPWHOMP:
That’s were the CASH MONEY is for the tracks though….pocketing 20k minimum on a decent night..


Curious how that adds up. Ticket sales. Entries. Food sales. What's the break down?
All of the above an they pay ZERO out unlike a bracket race…


How many participants roughly and how many spectators?


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I would estimate at that deal at Piedmont once a month they have around 10,000 in the gate at $25 a head. The place is a zoo and as far as I know only a few incidents worthy of mention over the years. They have a couple of classes also which seem to be well attended. Its on you tube, take a look. Big Dawg they call it.
 
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https://foxbaltimore.com/news/...ing-event-in-crofton

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Originally posted by Bucky:
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Originally posted by WHOMPWHOMP:
That’s were the CASH MONEY is for the tracks though….pocketing 20k minimum on a decent night..


Curious how that adds up. Ticket sales. Entries. Food sales. What's the break down?
All of the above an they pay ZERO out unlike a bracket race…


How many participants roughly and how many spectators?


I cannot speak to which track and/or which event(s) WhompWhomp is describing, but Brewer's Speedway on Friday nights would get maybe 1,500 (?) spectators ($10 a head) and maybe 3 dozen participants ($20 a head). It was more single test and tune passes then actual grudge races, but they occasionally happened. The concession stand always had a long line, and it wasn't because the service was slow. The place really wasn't big enough to hold it and just driving through the staging lanes and/or getting in the gate was a challenge.

Before Dunn-Benson changed hands and was reborn as Galot, they also had an incredible turnout at their test and tune/grudge Thursday nights. And they had more room for parking. Not so much anymore. The first year of Galot operation sort of soured the regulars on that. They tried to have actual "rules". Take care. Tom Worthington


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Well it is getting worse and that is not good for any of us.


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