Might do just that, Phil Oakley style.

Manners years ago, before he went Alcohol racing was 8.90 at over 225mph

I remember that Ken. I was what the hell.

US Nationals and Billy Torrence in his 2020 Undercover, 001 car, is the fastest Super Comp car on the property after Q1, running 192+!

Billy was running high 170's 20 years ago.

Watched Caz go 113 8.90 thought he broke something lol

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Originally posted by RPROGAS:
175 - 176 isn't all that unusual in S/G these days, then you have guys winning at 112 mph and slower.

Try and imagine a 64 (plus) mph closing rate, WOW!

Bob

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
less than 1800 and yes, when most super comp cars with an aluminum block and average size driver, are 1850-1875. That said, Howie's car is fast and his engine is built by a guy in PA that does this part time.

Ed

My car is heavier than Howie's and is faster too. I went a tick under 197 this past weekend with a real wing on my car. The wing is worth 2 to 3 MPH in the quarter, produces close to 325 pounds of down force. So what would I run in SC trim with no wing set up for big MPH?

This weekend set up for bracket racing.
My score board read:
6.81/196.7/1835 (We got the 3 display score board in last weekend.....LOL)

Yep.....I guess every car in the country is heavier than mine.....Must be the only motorsport I've ever seen where you brag how heavy your car is. I have a 240" Undercover, dual chutes, wing, standard 12 volt battery, charging system and all standard bracket racing equipment and you make it like it's some 190" comp car. If your **** is heavy, to F'ing bad, fix it. Otherwise shut you piehole......Howie

Howie, why does it bother you? You have a lite car compared to most and use an inline stop rather than a plate stop in an effort to maximize MPH. No rule against that but those are the facts. That said, I don't know that every super comp car in the country is heavier than yours but every super comp car in D1 running as fast and faster than you is.

As I stated above, the fastest S/C car at the US Nationals was Billy Torrence's 2020 Undercover, running 192.00 mph in Q1 and it like your car is all carbon fiber. I suspect it is as light as your car. Based on the MPH run by Jack, Ken and Chuck the same round, you would have run 185+ mph.

IMO the most impressive S/C at Indy when talking "Big MPH" was Phil Smida's that ran 189.47 in Q1 powered by an APD 9 degree and weighing 1900 lbs.

i thinking NHRA should imply a min weight in super comp. I am thinking about 1950. I am just wondering how fast my procharged dragster would run at Howie weight lol?

we have enough rules.

what does Howie car weigh anyways? I heard it is 1680 with driver. And with the whole inline stop debate. Correct me if i am wrong but the max speed which is on Kens, Debbies, Jacks, Chuck is just a inline mounted on the carb? Is that true or false Ed?

False, none of those racers, none of their APD engines are using the max speed carb. Matter of fact many that did no longer do.

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i thinking NHRA should imply a min weight in super comp. I am thinking about 1950. I am just wondering how fast my procharged dragster would run at Howie weight lol?

My car just makes the minimum, what a tank!



And FWIW, I saw maybe a .5 mph diff from my max speed to base plate setup.

I wonder what speed I could go at flyweight, with no wing, cruising at 4000 and turning my stop on/shifting instantly?

Would be fun to try, just don't know how to get rid of 165 #'s.

Having said that Taylor went 187 in my car in my current SC trim on a hot summer day.

Shawn

but was that at howie weight?

All you gotta do is be willing to shift on RPM. My engine made only 1020 hp and I’ve been 8.90 at 181 or maybe 182. Most guys running that MPH have at least 200 hp on me.

further as to "Big MPH" at Indy...

there were 14 cars that ran between 185 and 192 in Q1 and at least half of them were powered by APD 632+ cube BBC engines, using APD carbs and throttle stops.

Of the 14, 3 cars ran in the 190s...Billy Torrence at 192 powered by a Dart 11 degree dry sumped BBC built by Boyds Racing Engines, Gary Stinnett at 191 also powered by a Dart 11 dry sumped BBC and Steve Williams at 191 powered by a Brodix 15 degree PB5000 headed dry sumped BBC.

I saw John Sparr from B&M run 8.90 at 200 mph about 20-25 yrs. ago. That was impressive back then.

Vince

Ed is ducking our questions. I have no idea what Howie's car weighs but I know I could go 190 plus in SC trim with my little non APD, non spread port headed 632 motor. And that's with non oxygenated cheater fuel too!

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
we have enough rules.

True!