All of the "splitting"???

August 02, 2021, 01:21 PM

Bracket racing has become all about "splitting" and questions about "splitting". Splitting buy backs and splitting purses. Yet the big popular TV shows about drag racing appear to be winner take all. How did it all evolve to the split?

August 02, 2021, 01:49 PM

Bucky

Well, this is my take along with a fair amount of opinion. Once George did the Million successfully many were hooked, and many couldn't wait to try it. Seeing the market, many promoters decided to get into the game as well. But what brings in the participants more than anything? The big number at the top. And where is a lot of the money residing in a traditional bracket race? In the rounds. If only there were a way to increase that big sexy money to bring in participants AND turn a good profit for promoting it......I got it! Eliminate the round money and make the race top heavy.
So they did. But in reality, racers who have a couple rounds in their pockets, and are looking around at other competent racers and having rounds that are tight as hell, and plenty of gas money to get there and vacation spent.....well they don't want to go away with nothing, even if it means sacrificing a potential big number for a win. And so the splitting begins.

If I had my preference, it would be that they would advertise the total race payout (like they did in the beginning) for a given number of cars. It really shows the value for the given entry fee IMO.

August 02, 2021, 02:24 PM

Michael Beard

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Originally posted by Eman:
Bracket racing has become all about "splitting" and questions about "splitting". Splitting buy backs and splitting purses. Yet the big popular TV shows about drag racing appear to be winner take all. How did it all evolve to the split?

You really think they're racing for winner take all on the TV races?

August 02, 2021, 04:07 PM

Eman

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:
quote:
Originally posted by Eman:
Bracket racing has become all about "splitting" and questions about "splitting". Splitting buy backs and splitting purses. Yet the big popular TV shows about drag racing appear to be winner take all. How did it all evolve to the split?

I really can't say as I'm not much on TV. I know they did pretty well when they were touring local tracks for appearance money and selling T shirts.
Let's talk further about this. What about back in the day? Did the people doing match races back then "split"? I know it was a show and much of it was hyped up pretty good.

You really think they're racing for winner take all on the TV races?

August 02, 2021, 04:14 PM

SlyFox

I automatically assume anything on "reality TV" is fake.

August 02, 2021, 04:20 PM

wideopen231

Key word is TV. They also appear to be running a 7oo ci plus motor for 500 bucks.

August 02, 2021, 06:48 PM

ferndaleflyer

Anthony Walton and Micheal Beard run a good race. Read the fine print, its all in there. But they tell you how it is going to go if they come up short.
This week is 3 $10,000 races, it says foot brake so I assume that is what it means no buttons. I think entry is $300 for all 3 races... Where you racing for $10,000 and entry is $100. These guys work hard at it

August 02, 2021, 09:05 PM

Phil Dees

Been splitting purses since the 80's. It allowed a poor young man, just starting a family, the opportunity to race regularly. You didn't have to ask for a split, just agree to one.

August 09, 2021, 01:53 PM

The Bozman

Nothing wrong with splitting in my opinion, no need to go 9-10 rounds and have a 10-50K difference in payout. Run for a beer and the Happy Gilmore check, do 60-40% whatever. I have had a couple of people not want to split and been more than happy to oblige them. Won both so didn't matter to me, put all the pressure on yourself, its fine with me.

August 10, 2021, 06:13 AM

Goob

Wait!!
There are people leaving the track with money?

goob- been doing it wrong....

August 15, 2021, 05:48 PM

Harry's Taxi-2

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Originally posted by The Bozman:
Nothing wrong with splitting in my opinion, no need to go 9-10 rounds and have a 10-50K difference in payout. Run for a beer and the Happy Gilmore check, do 60-40% whatever. I have had a couple of people not want to split and been more than happy to oblige them. Won both so didn't matter to me, put all the pressure on yourself, its fine with me.

So you like socialism in the final rounds but say socialism is bad in your tag line. Got it.

August 15, 2021, 06:16 PM

Mike Rietow

It's capitalism if the deal is made before the race or round the split begins, or takes place.

It's a negotiated business deal / arrangement.

If someones argument for the split is it's for the greater good of the group, that person could be considered as a collectivist.

August 16, 2021, 06:39 AM

adv ET 266

quote:
Originally posted by Goob:
Wait!!
There are people leaving the track with money?

goob- been doing it wrong....

That’s funny

August 16, 2021, 07:07 AM

CURTIS REED

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Originally posted by Harry's Taxi-2:
quote:
Originally posted by The Bozman:
Nothing wrong with splitting in my opinion, no need to go 9-10 rounds and have a 10-50K difference in payout. Run for a beer and the Happy Gilmore check, do 60-40% whatever. I have had a couple of people not want to split and been more than happy to oblige them. Won both so didn't matter to me, put all the pressure on yourself, its fine with me.

So you like socialism in the final rounds but say socialism is bad in your tag line. Got it.

You might have to explain how that is socialism.

August 16, 2021, 07:26 AM

1320racer

We don’t split.

August 16, 2021, 12:19 PM

The Bozman

quote:
Originally posted by Harry's Taxi-2:

So you like socialism in the final rounds but say socialism is bad in your tag line. Got it.

That isn't socialism, if it was I would have to give you and everyone else who lost 80% of my winnings because you weren't good enough to win !! Understand socialism before you talk to me about it. Capitalism is the ability to me to determine what I get and how I want to risk or reward for it, not put it in someone else's hand because they think they deserve it.

August 16, 2021, 01:43 PM

muggs

Who cares? Split or no split whatever you prefer.

I will/have raced for plastic trophy. If I depended on money from racing I would be real skinny.

On the flip side I will always split when offered. It may make a difference for an opponent to continue racing.

I treat racing same as going to casino, what I take is gone. If I come with money is nice but not required. I do/spend what I can afford and never look back.

The older I get, the more exciting a round win light is.

August 26, 2021, 06:46 AM

Harry's Taxi-2

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Originally posted by The Bozman:
quote:
Originally posted by Harry's Taxi-2:

So you like socialism in the final rounds but say socialism is bad in your tag line. Got it.

That isn't socialism, if it was I would have to give you and everyone else who lost 80% of my winnings because you weren't good enough to win !! Understand socialism before you talk to me about it. Capitalism is the ability to me to determine what I get and how I want to risk or reward for it, not put it in someone else's hand because they think they deserve it.

Collecting money you haven't earned(the loser)from the one who did(the winner)is as close to socialism as you can get......maybe you need a better understanding of the definition.

August 26, 2021, 07:00 AM

fuzzy dice

quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
quote:
Originally posted by Eman:
Bracket racing has become all about "splitting" and questions about "splitting". Splitting buy backs and splitting purses. Yet the big popular TV shows about drag racing appear to be winner take all. How did it all evolve to the split?

You really think they're racing for winner take all on the TV races?

You are correct, Michael..back when that show Pinks all out started, two friends of mine raced n the final at Orlando...the "loser" handed over his pink slip to the winner who loaded up the losers car and drove off...that is what TV showed...what really happened was down at the end of the pits the losers car was unloaded and given back to him along with his pink slip when the cameras stopped rolling...all these shows are made for TV...

August 26, 2021, 07:23 AM

Bucky

quote:
Originally posted by Harry's Taxi-2:
quote:
Originally posted by The Bozman:
quote:
Originally posted by Harry's Taxi-2:

So you like socialism in the final rounds but say socialism is bad in your tag line. Got it.

That isn't socialism, if it was I would have to give you and everyone else who lost 80% of my winnings because you weren't good enough to win !! Understand socialism before you talk to me about it. Capitalism is the ability to me to determine what I get and how I want to risk or reward for it, not put it in someone else's hand because they think they deserve it.

Collecting money you haven't earned(the loser)from the one who did(the winner)is as close to socialism as you can get......maybe you need a better understanding of the definition.

With socialism it is forced. These are agreements between two willing parties. Nobody has to split. It isn't socialism in any way. Nice try. Well, not really.