Bracket Talk
Instant green bracket race

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August 30, 2019, 09:01 AM
markemark
Instant green bracket race
Having a pro brake in the trans, pumping front tires to max rating (door car) and using more 2 step rpm will allow the car to react fastest.
August 30, 2019, 09:16 AM
442OLDS
Can you deep stage in this deal?
August 30, 2019, 11:35 AM
Packmule
The one I’m talking about is at Jeffers Motorsports Park in sikeston mo





August 30, 2019, 11:56 AM
TOP38
Although this may sound like a fun deal, it's probably not if you really think about it...

In order to have a good shot of winning your VRT needs to be fast vs the field so a protree type of car has a good advantage, pop the wheels out of the beams instead of driving through them! Protree brakes, limit front end travel etc etc... basically most would have to change their current car setup to be competitive. Foot brakers won't have much chance here either.

The whole deal to me makes no sense at all.
August 30, 2019, 02:26 PM
Lenny5160
If the timers start when the green light comes on, then it's a fair deal. If they start conventionally, it's a fast car's game.


Tony Leonard
August 31, 2019, 08:05 AM
BJs Wild Ride
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Woodfin:
I understand about the instant green and about the instant green reaction.

The part I do not agree with is basing my move of the move of the other driver.


I don’t think you’re following along.

1st (slow car) is going to have a .400 light on average (against an absolute best allowable of .000).

I would just dial .3 faster than the slow car and let go on his wiggle. Assuming I have a DRT + VRT of about .400 also, I actually cut a .100 light. I can now take a quarter second at the stripe and still be in good shape.
August 31, 2019, 08:15 AM
Larry Woodfin
What is your plan when you are the slower car?


Larry Woodfin



August 31, 2019, 12:26 PM
Tom396
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Woodfin:
What is your plan when you are the slower car?


Hope the other car breaks and/or simply lose gracefully. Big Grin Take care. Tom Worthington


If it seems that bracket racing has gotten too expensive for you, maybe you are just doing it wrong.
September 01, 2019, 01:12 AM
Joe Burkleo
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Woodfin:
What is your plan when you are the slower car?


If you are both pretty close in VRT, drive the finish line and try to dump him and push him out, otherwise time to grab a cold one, go sit in the stands and watch the rest of the race.

If your car can't go red on a .400 pro tree, this may not be the race for you.
September 01, 2019, 09:50 AM
Eman
I looked at the tracks site and see the race but don't see any rules. The big question is are delay boxes allowed? If I was putting on this race delay boxes wouldn't be allowed.
September 01, 2019, 12:05 PM
442OLDS
It is strange that there are no posted rules.
Without knowing them,its hard to imagine that much interest.
If it was a deal where you could add your reaction time to your dial in,that might be interesting.
You wouldn't have to have a great reaction time as long as you knew what it was going to be and could factor that into the race.
Even deep staged,a slow car would have no chance on a traditional instant green type of race.Might be able to anticipate the green for a round,but that technique isn't going to win the race.
September 02, 2019, 09:50 AM
Packmule
I be not really checked or heard rules yet, my understanding is it’s meant to be sort of a “Throw back” to 50 years ago,when all the track had when it opened was a green light only tree. It’s the tracks 50th anniversary celebration.





September 03, 2019, 04:27 PM
Stephensx04
quote:
Originally posted by Tom396:
quote:
Originally posted by mack:
yes, planning on using delay box. Unless the tree is shielded. Not sure what kind of light a typical bracket car can cut on instant green,but i'm thinking it would be around .350 to .400 ?? The faster car leaving off their bulb (as long as the spread is enough)should produce normal lights. 3 or 4 tenths advantage on the tree??? WOW


If I were using a delay box racing in the faster car on a shielded tree, I wouldn't leave off of my bulb OR his bulb. I'd leave off "him". Put the amount of difference in your dials in the box and then take another tenth or more out. Leave when you see his car move. You'll be a tenth or more better than whatever he is. If he is dead late, you'll still be a tenth or more better. If he is on time, you'll still be a tenth or more better. Take care. Tom Worthington


This would work and produce a win 99% of the time. The only way this wouldnt is if the slower car "Guessed" tree and produced a near perfect RT. Then you can potentially go red depending on how you set your box.


Stephen Liss jr

September 03, 2019, 09:25 PM
Eman
They run these races around here at English Mountain Dragway. They started with a traffic light before they set up a tree. I've not been to one of these races but I want to spectate at one, they pay good money and get a big crowd.