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Bracket Talk Bracket Talk Forum General Discussion - by FTI Anyone air condition their shop??Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
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Yeah, the freon on mine was pulled down. But since the air handler was open, and I installed new lines to and from the unit ya have to pull a vacuum on it to get the air/moisture out. Not to mention as you said, to make sure it doesn't leak. Dave "It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance." -Thomas Sowell | |||
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Well for an update. I have three of the units running and they keep the shop at a nice 72* Most of the others are done just have not turned them on yet. Cost is about $120 a month to air condition 6,000 sq ft with 16 foot walls. really nice. So that is a small victory. I highly recommend them and will be doing something similar on my new trailer. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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Bruce, I’m curious. I have 2000sq ft, 14’ walls. Standard roll in insulation. 2 12x12 doors and a 8x8 in the rear. I currently have a standard 5 ton package unit that does just fine for me. In the summer if i raise a door and loose a good bit of air i will struggle to get it cool again till dark. Doesn’t happen often tho. I have been thinking of adding say a 3 ton dual zone mini, to supplement my current air. 22 seer is what I’m seeing. I was curious if 1 3 ton dual zone would be better or a couple smaller units? J.R. Baxter ""Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured ..but not everyone must prove they are a citizen." 2024 Miller Rolla Competition Engines ProCharger Hoosier Tires Abruzzi | |||
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For me the answer was more of the smaller units because they are so much more efficient. These 38 SEER units do not cost much at all to run and work great. Right now 3 keep it really cool but woud probably struggle to cool it back down if I had doors open long. When I turn on the other 7 it should cool really quick. I would probably put 2 of these small units in there and use them to cool the shop would not cost much and then if you had doors open or needed it cooled quick turn on the big AC unit. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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Well since we are all bragging about our shops. I have a very spacious 19 x 20 two car garage attached. I use a 20 inch box fan for cooling. When my tee shirt is soaked with sweat the box fan feels really good with the garage door open. I have one wall with shelving starting at 4 foot off the floor and goes all the way up to the top of the 10 foot ceiling, but with the garage door open I can only access the bottom 4 shelves. I have a 4 post jack stand lift the goes high enough that I can wiggle under my car with a low profile creeper. I do have easy access to the inside of my house so I can go in there to change my mind.  | |||
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Evaporative body cooling actually works down there in TX! Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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Who has experience with Pioneer Sennville Cooper and Hunter John Any great or terrible? Mini splits that is Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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I have installed and sold 100's of mini splits in several different brands. Most cool good until they don't. Most of the major components all come from overseas and as you all know that is a huge problem right now. I have a customer that bought some on the web and now he has problems and wants someone to warranty them for him even though I told him a parts failure would be a ***** to resolve. He can't find anyone in this area that will touch them. Most of the major components blower motors,control boards etc. are months out. | |||
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I believe the Mini Splits are the way of the future. There MUCH more efficient and you can control better where you want cooled and heated. They are better suited for hot areas that need air conditioning as the heat is not as efficient. Here in Texas Air Conditioning business is changing. The fees and permits for those doing it legally has got really expensive and if you get some body off the street you do not have warranty or anything. It appears the State is making it very hard for those who want to do it right. Also the Mini Splits are relatively easy to install I still say have a professional do it because they will leak it down and make sure it is sealed very good. Otherwise a few years down the road you will have problems and nobody to help. We pulled a vacuum on mine and they were not pulling as good of vacuum as they should so we cut the fittings and welded them. Sure they would have worked for a year or two but will last much longer doing it right. Pulled vacuum right down after welding them. They say you can install them yourself and I guess you could but it will last much longer and save some headaches if you have a professional do it. The mini Splits are also more or less disposable. If I ever have a problem other than something simple circuit board etc I will probably replace whole unit. Still I think insulation and good design of your building is very critical if you want to save money. In the next 6 months or so I will do a Solar Patio that will shade much of the South side of my house and provide the energy to run my house. I will be building it fairly high up and have a nice shaded patio to BBQ and hang out. My goal is to eventually be almost no cost energy. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
I put a mini split in my 1500' shop. I have my shop on it's own meter and there was no difference on the electric bill. I leave mine on 24/7 from spring to fall. | |||
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Well damn Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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Mine will be self installed. I can pull vacuum and have gauges for checking. I honestly don't think this application will use an extreme amount of electricity. It's really only needed for a few months. I'm shaded and insulated. The temp out there wasn't bad today, but the humidity has crept up badly. Any time we need to have the door open, I will just turn off the air ahead of time, or limit open door time like I do in the winter. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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DRR Trophy |
How well do these mini splits heat in the winter? | |||
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So the reading I have done shows that a regular 230v window unit sized the same as a mini split is more efficient so that is what I am going with. My shop is only 1200sq' though. I don't have any windows so I will just frame out and cut the hole for the ac. I will have to see if I need 2 units or not. I will be putting in a 25,000btu ac. I have propane for heating. ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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I put a Mr. Cool mini split in my 32x30 garage, best money I have ever spent! | |||
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They heat fair but are not as efficient in heating mode as they are in cooling mode. My most expensive bill to date was when it was very cold here for over a month. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
I know a few folks who have used these in applications such as 4 Season rooms and other types of smaller enclosures and they work great. If your garage is insulated somewhat well you should be fine for what you are planning to use it for. "Some things are better left unsaid... usually it's the S**T I blurt out first. | |||
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My 30' X 60' x 12' is very well insulated and I run a dehumidifier when it's needed. Cheap and easy improvement, 80 and dry isn't too bad. I'm stretched thin on electrical capacity until I do something different with that situation. "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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  "Some things are better left unsaid... usually it's the S**T I blurt out first. | |||
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^^^^ You are an idea man!! "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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