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Blinders No Longer Allowed - INTERESTING

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January 22, 2023, 09:00 AM
RacerVX54
Blinders No Longer Allowed - INTERESTING
Nhra lul....


"Just Shut Up and Race"

Brian Martin
Martin Racing
5.66 @121.55
January 22, 2023, 12:29 PM
442OLDS
The rule could have originated from an Illinois law.

https://97zokonline.com/remove...illegal-in-illinois/
January 22, 2023, 02:06 PM
1320racer
Nope the rule is the result of the vocal minority that have the NHRA’s ear, FACT!
January 22, 2023, 04:23 PM
Lenny5160
quote:
Originally posted by 442OLDS:
The rule could have originated from an Illinois law.

https://97zokonline.com/remove...illegal-in-illinois/


I assumed that was standard law everywhere. It definitely applies here in MN.


Tony Leonard
January 22, 2023, 04:25 PM
442OLDS
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
Nope the rule is the result of the vocal minority that have the NHRA’s ear, FACT!


I will be shocked if the rule is actually enforced.I'm expecting another "ammendment" before the season gets underway.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: 442OLDS,
January 22, 2023, 05:29 PM
The Hawk
May need to get the Stocker back on the track sometime this year....maybe


lane weber

perfecting a better mousetrap
January 23, 2023, 07:17 AM
SlyFox
If door cars are driving around in the pit area with helmets and windows taped up, how will they avoid all the dragsters parked halfway out into the road?


Mike
January 23, 2023, 07:58 AM
Lenny5160
quote:
Originally posted by The Hawk:
May need to get the Stocker back on the track sometime this year....maybe


Opponents using blinders was keeping you away?


Tony Leonard
January 23, 2023, 09:02 AM
SlyFox
I'm not understanding the blinder thing - you can tilt your head downward until the visor on your helmet blocks all but the bottom bulb - WTF?


Mike
January 23, 2023, 09:31 AM
Bill Koski
SAD! I thought with the new tech director there might not be this type of LUNACY enacted!


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
January 23, 2023, 12:55 PM
markemark
I read 7:8 … in All classes of Door Cars (excluding Stock / Super Stock) a permanently mounted shield 4 x 8”, and is allowed to pivot, that is not attached to the windows or face shield, and requires tools for removal to be legal. This is what has been legal in years prior (looked at a 2020 rules book), and remains legal in Super Pro/ Pro and Sportsman and other Door car participants. I’ve not heard of it being enforced in ET classes.
January 23, 2023, 02:24 PM
Lenny5160
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
I read 7:8 … in All classes of Door Cars (excluding Stock / Super Stock) a permanently mounted shield 4 x 8”, and is allowed to pivot, that is not attached to the windows or face shield, and requires tools for removal to be legal. This is what has been legal in years prior (looked at a 2020 rules book), and remains legal in Super Pro/ Pro and Sportsman and other Door car participants. I’ve not heard of it being enforced in ET classes.


Correct. None of this applies to ET classes as of now.


Tony Leonard
January 23, 2023, 02:27 PM
Big Steve
quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
I read 7:8 … in All classes of Door Cars (excluding Stock / Super Stock) a permanently mounted shield 4 x 8”, and is allowed to pivot, that is not attached to the windows or face shield, and requires tools for removal to be legal. This is what has been legal in years prior (looked at a 2020 rules book), and remains legal in Super Pro/ Pro and Sportsman and other Door car participants. I’ve not heard of it being enforced in ET classes.


Correct. None of this applies to ET classes as of now.


And even if it did, no track will enforce it so why bother
January 23, 2023, 03:11 PM
329L
They better the enforce the helmet visor taping that most of the fuel classes use....


Jeremiah Hall
January 23, 2023, 04:13 PM
markemark
quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
I read 7:8 … in All classes of Door Cars (excluding Stock / Super Stock) a permanently mounted shield 4 x 8”, and is allowed to pivot, that is not attached to the windows or face shield, and requires tools for removal to be legal. This is what has been legal in years prior (looked at a 2020 rules book), and remains legal in Super Pro/ Pro and Sportsman and other Door car participants. I’ve not heard of it being enforced in ET classes.


Correct. None of this applies to ET classes as of now.


NOT Correct

EVERYTHING in General Regulations 7:8. Applies to Super Pro, Pro, Sportsman

P. 81 2023 NHRA rule book PDF version

WINDSHIELD, WINDOWS
Altereds, dragsters: Optional. Windscreen mandatory. See
General Regulations 7:7, 7:8.

Stock-bodied vehicles: : Mandatory, must be in good condition
and free from cracks. May be replaced with shatterproof
material, 1/8-inch-minimum thickness. OEM windshield may not
be cut for scoops, carb, etc. Windshield/window tint must meet
the applicable state requirements. Windows must be closed

P. 82 continued Section 4A, page 7 Super Pro, Pro, Sportsman
during races, need not be operable. Decals permitted on rear
quarter and rear window only. See General Regulations 7:8.
January 23, 2023, 10:53 PM
Lenny5160
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
I read 7:8 … in All classes of Door Cars (excluding Stock / Super Stock) a permanently mounted shield 4 x 8”, and is allowed to pivot, that is not attached to the windows or face shield, and requires tools for removal to be legal. This is what has been legal in years prior (looked at a 2020 rules book), and remains legal in Super Pro/ Pro and Sportsman and other Door car participants. I’ve not heard of it being enforced in ET classes.


Correct. None of this applies to ET classes as of now.


NOT Correct

EVERYTHING in General Regulations 7:8. Applies to Super Pro, Pro, Sportsman

P. 81 2023 NHRA rule book PDF version

WINDSHIELD, WINDOWS
Altereds, dragsters: Optional. Windscreen mandatory. See
General Regulations 7:7, 7:8.

Stock-bodied vehicles: : Mandatory, must be in good condition
and free from cracks. May be replaced with shatterproof
material, 1/8-inch-minimum thickness. OEM windshield may not
be cut for scoops, carb, etc. Windshield/window tint must meet
the applicable state requirements. Windows must be closed

P. 82 continued Section 4A, page 7 Super Pro, Pro, Sportsman
during races, need not be operable. Decals permitted on rear
quarter and rear window only. See General Regulations 7:8.


I was not clear enough in my previous post. When I stated that "none of this applies in the ET classes" I was referring to the complete banning of blinders and/or helmet shield covering, which is the topic of this post.

The General Regs do allow for blinders of a certain size and for limiting the field of view on the helmet visor, as they have for years.


Tony Leonard
January 24, 2023, 12:06 AM
The Hawk
quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by The Hawk:
May need to get the Stocker back on the track sometime this year....maybe


Opponents using blinders was keeping you away?

Oh hell no. Work needing to be done on the car kept me away from Stock. I've been focusing on my Firebird in Super Pro and Super Street.


lane weber

perfecting a better mousetrap
January 24, 2023, 06:43 AM
Toad1
Lenny,

Bracket racers don't need a rule like that, (smart bracket racers actually park their dragsters so they aren't hanging out in the road!!) LOL
More RULES that don't make sense. I guess a lot of cars running over each other at NHRA events. MAYBE it is the 30 mph golf carts and scooters blasting around the pits.

I wonder if anyone has actually had an accident due to the tree blinder causing it or were they just a dumbazz driving to fast and reading an ET Slip.


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February 05, 2023, 04:40 PM
Toad1
There will be more blinders on helmet visors. Leave visor up driving around and getting to pre-stage, pull visor down and boo... there is the blocker you wanted. Mine actually works the other way, center of visor is cut out and my side shields are to eliminate visual distractions. flip the visor down
and shields are out of the way. I currently leave off the top. If I go to the bottom when visor is up, the middle bulbs will be blocked. Easy and safe. Not a part of the car and no problem in the pit area.


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February 05, 2023, 08:04 PM
B KING
quote:
Originally posted by B KING:
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
I don’t see the big deal and think the banning of tape or blocking on face shields is good. OEM sun visors are easily installed if wanted. This doesn’t stop one from holding their hand out in front of them to block the tree.


^^^This^^^ Nor does it prevent from holding something in your hand to block the tree.

I don't currently use blinders & don't care about racers who chose to use them. I've experimented with different ways to blind the tree.

2BKING: If I chose to blind the tree, I'm sure I could win that way also. Consistent winners will figure out how to win by adapting to rules/conditions dealt to them. Wink


With all the ink recently especially on Class Racer. I'm thinking about revisiting/testing blinding for my program again.

2BKING Big Grin


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