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Anyone extend wifi wirelessly to shop?

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February 18, 2021, 09:13 PM
Bucky
Anyone extend wifi wirelessly to shop?
No easy way to run wire from house to shop. But I do have line of sight. Anyone know anything about wireless extenders?


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
February 18, 2021, 09:31 PM
Joe Burkleo
If the house and shop are on the same electric meter, TP-Link makes some network extenders that use the power lines. Some of them have built-in WiFi for the remote end as well.

For running a few devices they work fairly well. I have used them on a few different installs with good results.

There are several options for extending a network using Wireless. What you are after are what is called a Bridge. A true bridge will only provide the link between the buildings, not WiFi access on the remote end. Once you get to the other end at the shop you will need an access point for WiFi there.

Both TP-Link and Ubiquiti make some fairly inexpensive devices for just this purpose.
February 18, 2021, 09:48 PM
sr4440
i have a couple of these with a router in the shop. they work great but a bit of a overkill on the power it puts out.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod..._title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Joe


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February 18, 2021, 10:39 PM
TD3550
I have a panel system., Point to point. from
RadioLabs. Earlier panel system. From the house to the shop. 1/4 mile away. Mine can go up to 3.5 miles.2.4 GHz. I can remote in from either panel and check log files/desktop and cameras.

https://www.radiolabs.com/

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February 18, 2021, 11:15 PM
Tom396
We let our neighbors use our WiFi. Not sure if that helps. Smile Take care. Tom Worthington


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February 19, 2021, 06:12 AM
KWig
Ha ha !! Perfect, Tom !!


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February 19, 2021, 08:04 AM
speedwrench44
Shop 100' from house. Netgear AC 1200 Range Extender in window with cheap Yagi antenna outside on end of shop facing house. Wifi little slower than PC but not noticeable


Dave
February 19, 2021, 08:33 AM
Brktracer
I've tried with range extenders a couple of times and never had much better range than the router itself. Basically I wasted my money. I've considered running a cable. My shop is barely within range.

If someone has a good solution that works, I'm interested as well.

I'd recommend not buying a range extender that someone else hasn't tested first. I wasted my money twice.


Matt Ward



February 19, 2021, 10:30 AM
Roger McGinnis
My shop is about 50' from the house. We use an Eero system. Works good. Can live steam on the big screen.



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February 19, 2021, 11:03 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Roger McGinnis:
My shop is about 50' from the house. We use an Eero system. Works good. Can live steam on the big screen.


Like this?
https://www.amazon.com/eero-Ho...a-405804228441&psc=1

I'm probably 150' or so. Maybe 200'


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
February 19, 2021, 11:06 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by TD3550:
I have a panel system., Point to point. from
RadioLabs. Earlier panel system. From the house to the shop. 1/4 mile away. Mine can go up to 3.5 miles.2.4 GHz. I can remote in from either panel and check log files/desktop and cameras.

https://www.radiolabs.com/


Wow!


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
February 19, 2021, 11:15 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Burkleo:
If the house and shop are on the same electric meter, TP-Link makes some network extenders that use the power lines. Some of them have built-in WiFi for the remote end as well.

For running a few devices they work fairly well. I have used them on a few different installs with good results.

There are several options for extending a network using Wireless. What you are after are what is called a Bridge. A true bridge will only provide the link between the buildings, not WiFi access on the remote end. Once you get to the other end at the shop you will need an access point for WiFi there.

Both TP-Link and Ubiquiti make some fairly inexpensive devices for just this purpose.


Like this?:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link...C218&sr=1-18-catcorr

It almost seems too good to be true.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
February 19, 2021, 12:52 PM
Joe Burkleo
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Burkleo:
If the house and shop are on the same electric meter, TP-Link makes some network extenders that use the power lines. Some of them have built-in WiFi for the remote end as well.

For running a few devices they work fairly well. I have used them on a few different installs with good results.

There are several options for extending a network using Wireless. What you are after are what is called a Bridge. A true bridge will only provide the link between the buildings, not WiFi access on the remote end. Once you get to the other end at the shop you will need an access point for WiFi there.

Both TP-Link and Ubiquiti make some fairly inexpensive devices for just this purpose.


Like this?:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link...C218&sr=1-18-catcorr

It almost seems too good to be true.


That's the one. Have been using the older 100 MB ones for several years.

Just plug into one of your routers Ethernet ports in the house and plug the remote end into an outlet out in the shop. You will need to log into the devices web page to set it up. I don't always trust that the automatic pairing to your router will work, but it is such and easy setup you won't have any problems.

You can configure the WiFi out in the shop to be the same as the one in the house or make it it's own WiFi network with a different name and password.
February 19, 2021, 01:13 PM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Burkleo:
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Burkleo:
If the house and shop are on the same electric meter, TP-Link makes some network extenders that use the power lines. Some of them have built-in WiFi for the remote end as well.

For running a few devices they work fairly well. I have used them on a few different installs with good results.

There are several options for extending a network using Wireless. What you are after are what is called a Bridge. A true bridge will only provide the link between the buildings, not WiFi access on the remote end. Once you get to the other end at the shop you will need an access point for WiFi there.

Both TP-Link and Ubiquiti make some fairly inexpensive devices for just this purpose.


Like this?:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link...C218&sr=1-18-catcorr

It almost seems too good to be true.


That's the one. Have been using the older 100 MB ones for several years.

Just plug into one of your routers Ethernet ports in the house and plug the remote end into an outlet out in the shop. You will need to log into the devices web page to set it up. I don't always trust that the automatic pairing to your router will work, but it is such and easy setup you won't have any problems.

You can configure the WiFi out in the shop to be the same as the one in the house or make it it's own WiFi network with a different name and password.


I’m gonna try this first since it is easy snd cheap


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
February 21, 2021, 10:01 AM
Roger McGinnis
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
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Like this?
https://www.amazon.com/eero-Ho...a-405804228441&psc=1

I'm probably 150' or so. Maybe 200'


Yes



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February 21, 2021, 12:59 PM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Burkleo:
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Burkleo:
If the house and shop are on the same electric meter, TP-Link makes some network extenders that use the power lines. Some of them have built-in WiFi for the remote end as well.

For running a few devices they work fairly well. I have used them on a few different installs with good results.

There are several options for extending a network using Wireless. What you are after are what is called a Bridge. A true bridge will only provide the link between the buildings, not WiFi access on the remote end. Once you get to the other end at the shop you will need an access point for WiFi there.

Both TP-Link and Ubiquiti make some fairly inexpensive devices for just this purpose.


Like this?:
https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link...C218&sr=1-18-catcorr

It almost seems too good to be true.


That's the one. Have been using the older 100 MB ones for several years.

Just plug into one of your routers Ethernet ports in the house and plug the remote end into an outlet out in the shop. You will need to log into the devices web page to set it up. I don't always trust that the automatic pairing to your router will work, but it is such and easy setup you won't have any problems.

You can configure the WiFi out in the shop to be the same as the one in the house or make it it's own WiFi network with a different name and password.


Well it works like a charm in the house. Move the receiver to the shop and the internet signal isn't getting there.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
February 21, 2021, 02:39 PM
David Covey
I tried the same thing. Didn't work for me either.

I ran a cable around the house as my router is in a back room and then out to the shop right at 100" total. Put a router in the shop so I have wifi in and outside the shop.

But I have a buddy (Joe sr4440) who's my go to geek when I need anything IT related as he works with this kind of stuff. All I can do is screw it up and then call him to figure it out..lol I like to present a challenge.

Dave


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February 21, 2021, 09:45 PM
Joe Burkleo
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:

Well it works like a charm in the house. Move the receiver to the shop and the internet signal isn't getting there.


Just double checking some things here.
200 feet should not too far of a distance to keep these from not being able to connect to each other.

Did you plug an Ethernet cable into your router from the inside unit?

Does the electrical panel in the shop gets it's feed from the house panel?
February 22, 2021, 12:13 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Joe Burkleo:
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:

Well it works like a charm in the house. Move the receiver to the shop and the internet signal isn't getting there.


Just double checking some things here.
200 feet should not too far of a distance to keep these from not being able to connect to each other.

Did you plug an Ethernet cable into your router from the inside unit?

Does the electrical panel in the shop gets it's feed from the house panel?


Yes and actually had it working at house, sending wifi internet signal out.

The house and shop both come from the same meter, but house does not feed shop. Meter is hung on shop which was built first.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
February 22, 2021, 01:25 AM
Joe Burkleo
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
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Yes and actually had it working at house, sending wifi internet signal out.

The house and shop both come from the same meter, but house does not feed shop. Meter is hung on shop which was built first.


Ok, got it. What I would try next is a different outlet on another circuit, in case there is something blocking the signal. What it might take is to find an outlet on both ends that is on the same side of the 110 volt buss bars in the panels.