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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
So who are these top tier drivers in these "house cars" that are willing to win a race for less money than they would have won if they entered the race?

ALOT....

with 700 entries, it's probably a long list!

I just assumed that all those cars with the giant company logo of the promoter on them were "House Cars" (and there are a lot of those).
Would anyone think this would effect the chances of cars being "Randomly Checked" in the late rounds?

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Originally posted by cartman:
I just assumed that all those cars with the giant company logo of the promoter on them were "House Cars" (and there are a lot of those).
Would anyone think this would effect the chances of cars being "Randomly Checked" in the late rounds?

Just because they have an SFG sticker on them doesn’t mean they are house cars. And have you seen all of these alleged house cars not get checked?

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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
So who are these top tier drivers in these "house cars" that are willing to win a race for less money than they would have won if they entered the race?

Good racers that can't afford $100K per year in entry fees plus travel expenses.

The every week new big money race and new promoters reminds me of the 2008 sub prime mortgage crisis. Mike Ashely can't be involved as he was finally sent to jail.

Are there really enough racers willing to keep paying these high entry fees for this to continue much longer?

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Just because they have an SFG sticker on them doesn’t mean they are house cars. And have you seen all of these alleged house cars not get checked?

I didn't specify any certain promoter. I've seen many different promoters stickers on many cars. House cars go way back and I didn't single out anyone.
I've actually been to some of these races and yes I've seen all of the cars at the track not get checked lol
Have you been to any?

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Good racers that can't afford $100K per year in entry fees plus travel expenses. Smile

This 100% and they don't necessarily have any "stickers" on them.

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Originally posted by cartman:
I just assumed that all those cars with the giant company logo of the promoter on them were "House Cars" (and there are a lot of those).
Would anyone think this would effect the chances of cars being "Randomly Checked" in the late rounds?

Pretty dumb comment, he's made multiple post at multiple races.. he was basically giving away entries to people who won big money races that were live on mmtv if they ran an sfg sticker... that's called marketing!

As far as the "not checking someone goes" I trust Aj to do the right thing. I'm 100% sure he's not going to allow anyone to win a race that he's in charge of knowing they're "cheating."

Also, Kyle has put a race on this past weekend for the last 4 years, the first one was with Wesley so if anyone should know Kyle's dates it would definitely be Wesley!

Personally, I think it was just too hot of a weekend and that's what effected car count at both tracks. We have about 10 nice lakes around Piedmont and most would rather be there than racing in July.

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Pretty dumb comment, he's made multiple post at multiple races.. he was basically giving away entries to people who won big money races that were live on mmtv if they ran an sfg sticker... that's called marketing!

Thanks for clearing that up.

Well said Jordan. I have learned to ignore some of the things I'm accused of. As you stated SFG Promotions had its very 1st race July 20-22 2016 and have had a race that weekend EVERY YEAR since. So hopefully this clears the scheduling conflict up. I've worked my a$$ off to build SFG to the top and the fact is some just don't like the success I'm having.
50k-50k-525k to 75k-75k-75k to 100k-100k-100k
To a GUARANTEED 250k to a GUARANTEED 525K to a GUARANTEED 1 Million Dollars all in just 3 years and EVERYONE has been paid every penny!!!!
Not bragging just stating facts. GOD has BLESSED me at this promoting thing and I'm very GRATEFUL for it. So I hope to see you guys at a SFG event in the future.

I said I didn’t like the way you recruited for the last race. If you are referring to that as a rumor I will be glad to screen shot and post the pics here. No doubt you have came a long ways since the days of “Kyle Kyle”

Honestly I really don't see the issue if a racer had his entry backed by the promoter of the race as long as that said racer is going by the same rules and as everyone else in the race. With that said, I have never heard of any shady business take place at any of the SFG races put on, but I do understand things could happen, just never heard of it happening, but some on here may know more than me on this.

A couple of years back, I won an IHRA Gold Card. Several promoters in VA, NC and TN, said “Rob, you can’t get in for free to our race, but if you buy an entry, we will give you an entry.” Does that make me a “House Car”?

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Originally posted by Rob7181:
A couple of years back, I won an IHRA Gold Card. Several promoters in VA, NC and TN, said “Rob, you can’t get in for free to our race, but if you buy an entry, we will give you an entry.” Does that make me a “House Car”?

Did they want a cut of any of your winnings with the free entry?

If not, you weren't a "house car"....

Don't like the whole idea of promoters having "house cars" at an event they are putting on...

Although not as extreme, its kinda like setting down at a table in Vegas that is full of players employed by the casino isnt it?

Would you guys be OK with that?

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Originally posted by AZ:

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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
So who are these top tier drivers in these "house cars" that are willing to win a race for less money than they would have won if they entered the race?

Good racers that can't afford $100K per year in entry fees plus travel expenses.

Got any names? I suspect not

I can 100% guarantee that not all of those with the big stickers are on a percentage deal.

On the "recruiting " of racers....Thats no different than any big business offering free products if you switch from brand a to their brand. Surely some of you (if you are lazy and/or worthless disregard the next part) have been offered more money and/or better benefits to come work elsewhere.
Promoting is a business. As long as you are treating customers right there's no foul. There is only so many weekends in a year, so it's up to the promoters to get the cars through the gate to pay the purse.

If Kyle did this (I'm not saying he didnt) I understand his business logic. His race is guaranteed, the other based on cars.....think about it.

When you say "House Cars" I am assuming you mean a car that is owned by the track or track managers and are putting a good racer in their car to race in their race.

That is much different than getting a Contingency bonus if you have their sticker on your car.