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Big money racing

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July 24, 2019, 08:30 PM
loosechange
Big money racing
While I was racing at MDIR this weekend my buddy showed me a message from the promoter at piedmont offering him a free weekend entry at piedmont if he left MDIR. Multiple people got this same message. Both races were already short on cars from scheduling over one another.


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July 24, 2019, 08:38 PM
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July 24, 2019, 08:42 PM
loosechange
I guess some people will do anything to get the car count


Im just a gold fish hanging out with the sharks.
July 25, 2019, 04:48 AM
Richard Hammond
quote:
Originally posted by loosechange:
I guess some people will do anything to get the car count


Whether you like it or not it’s called running a big business. And there’s no love lost between those two promoters.
July 25, 2019, 08:29 AM
loosechange
I’m aware of how to run s business. Actions like this fall in the Category of integrity or character. Or in this case the lack of.


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July 25, 2019, 08:58 AM
Richard Hammond
quote:
Originally posted by loosechange:
I’m aware of how to run s business. Actions like this fall in the Category of integrity or character. Or in this case the lack of.


Right or wrong at least SFG pays its racers on time. Can’t say the same about no limit promotions.
July 25, 2019, 09:17 AM
Team C
Integrity!? Character!? Good one to be talking!!! What!?
July 25, 2019, 09:20 AM
hangonrcer
Makes you wonder how many of those 700+ entries were actually gifted by said promoter but I guess you have to find a way to cover them payouts somehow and pray one of your "house cars" win the money and keep it in your pocket! Definitely shows ones true character once you hear of these actions specially trying to get cars to leave one track and come to another. That's some shady business practices IMO!
July 25, 2019, 09:47 AM
loosechange
Richard I am unaffiliated with any promoter. I used to attend all the big races before my son came along. I would go about anywhere and hop on the mic between rounds. Where you shorted money at a big race?


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July 25, 2019, 10:10 AM
ferndaleflyer
I know the SFG race paid the posted purse and has at every race. I don't have a dog in this fight but my boy won and was paid $5000 at Piedmont and never even made the finals.....tough act to follow.
July 25, 2019, 10:21 AM
loosechange
There was never any stipulations on who pays. Only the process of recruiting racers fern. Good to see you at the wfc on tv buddy


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July 25, 2019, 10:32 AM
Richard Hammond
quote:
Originally posted by loosechange:
Richard I am unaffiliated with any promoter. I used to attend all the big races before my son came along. I would go about anywhere and hop on the mic between rounds. Where you shorted money at a big race?


No I wasn’t the one that got shorted at the no limit races. But I’d have a hard time trusting a race promoted by no limit promotions after what happened last year.And As far as SFG trying to coax racers to come to his race. I personally don’t have a problem with it.i understand what he’s trying to do. But sometimes you just have to take the loss in revenue and move on.
July 25, 2019, 11:17 AM
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July 25, 2019, 02:47 PM
Stephen Hughes
Well it looks like he isn’t denying it. I’m curious how many “house cars” are in those races and how many have won. Rumors are already out there about this happening recently on some big payout events.


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July 25, 2019, 04:07 PM
Curly1
I probably should not say anything because I do not know these two tracks but......

If they are placing big races on top of each other they are just hurting themselves. They need to man up and talk to each other when they set up their schedules and try not to step on each other any more than you have to.

Also if they re running house cars in one of their own big money races I would be somewhat concerned. Does not mean they are cheating or anything but it sure could make it easier for them to.


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July 25, 2019, 04:07 PM
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July 25, 2019, 04:46 PM
loosechange
As you can see by the reply’s for $1100 you can enter today and go in a free drawing for a new car


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July 25, 2019, 05:07 PM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
I probably should not say anything because I do not know these two tracks but......

If they are placing big races on top of each other they are just hurting themselves. They need to man up and talk to each other when they set up their schedules and try not to step on each other any more than you have to.

Also if they re running house cars in one of their own big money races I would be somewhat concerned. Does not mean they are cheating or anything but it sure could make it easier for them to.


Dead on. Two races, each short of cars on the same weekend in the same area. Duh! The more civil tracks and promoters are to each other, the better chance of each of them succeeding and all racers getting plenty of great races to race at.
I'm sure who will want, and take the last word to promote his race. He doesn't want to talk about the concerns expressed. He wants car counts.


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July 25, 2019, 06:24 PM
Richard Hammond
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
I probably should not say anything because I do not know these two tracks but......

If they are placing big races on top of each other they are just hurting themselves. They need to man up and talk to each other when they set up their schedules and try not to step on each other any more than you have to.

Also if they re running house cars in one of their own big money races I would be somewhat concerned. Does not mean they are cheating or anything but it sure could make it easier for them to.


Dead on. Two races, each short of cars on the same weekend in the same area. Duh! The more civil tracks and promoters are to each other, the better chance of each of them succeeding and all racers getting plenty of great races to race at.
I'm sure who will want, and take the last word to promote his race. He doesn't want to talk about the concerns expressed. He wants car counts.


Well the fact that it's July and hot as heck I'm sure had plenty to do with the car counts. Not many of these races are on top of each other. But there are only so many dates available to work with so every once in a while you are going to have this problem. It is what it is.
July 25, 2019, 08:03 PM
Hotrod Corvette
So who are these top tier drivers in these "house cars" that are willing to win a race for less money than they would have won if they entered the race?
HMMMM


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