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Tree Sensing Devices - The New Hot Topic

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July 04, 2020, 05:20 PM
Hotrod Corvette
Tree Sensing Devices - The New Hot Topic
So after all this accusing talk for months, and a weeks worth of intense investigation of everyone involved, we can finally stat as a fact...



Donald Trump did not conspire with Russia in development of any Tree Sensing Devices...


Burt

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July 06, 2020, 08:03 AM
Da Shoe
I think way too many of us were 100% focused on the statement "cheating or not cheating" and were looking for a final out come of if anyone was caught or not. This then would justify that no one cheats or everyone cheats and thats completely narrow minded.

The main point incase here is that a race/promoter of an event is actually checking cars. We would hope they find nothing but you cannot negate the main point that someone was actually checking.
July 06, 2020, 08:13 AM
CURTIS REED
quote:
Originally posted by Da Shoe:
I think way too many of us were 100% focused on the statement "cheating or not cheating" and were looking for a final out come of if anyone was caught or not. This then would justify that no one cheats or everyone cheats and thats completely narrow minded.

The main point incase here is that a race/promoter of an event is actually checking cars. We would hope they find nothing but you cannot negate the main point that someone was actually checking.


And that knowing there would be checks probably wouldn't have it at that race anyway if they were using something.



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July 06, 2020, 09:02 AM
SmokinChicken
You wouldn't find it anyway more than likely. Until you start opening up the electronic devices, boxes etc in cars then you more than likely will come up empty. Diffused photo electric sensor hidden in helmet or go pro etc., attached to a a RF switch transmitter with RF transmitter receiver inside delay box. not saying cheating is or isnt being done but with technology of today the window is their.
July 06, 2020, 09:05 AM
Mike Rietow
What does a magician do when he does a trick?

He gets you looking at the hand he's not using to do the trick.
July 06, 2020, 09:24 AM
SmokinChicken
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
What does a magician do when he does a trick?

He gets you looking at the hand he's not using to do the trick.


So maybe its not the cars (because thats what we are looking at) but the computer timing system? Hackers, etc., maybe that explains those odd tickets . hmmm
July 06, 2020, 09:25 AM
pauley
quote:
Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
So after all this accusing talk for months, and a weeks worth of intense investigation of everyone involved, we can finally stat as a fact...



Donald Trump did not conspire with Russia in development of any Tree Sensing Devices...


do not spread this about Trump or the dumbocrats will want hearings to prove otherwise.

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July 06, 2020, 09:27 AM
Richard Hammond
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinChicken:
You wouldn't find it anyway more than likely. Until you start opening up the electronic devices, boxes etc in cars then you more than likely will come up empty. Diffused photo electric sensor hidden in helmet or go pro etc., attached to a a RF switch transmitter with RF transmitter receiver inside delay box. not saying cheating is or isnt being done but with technology of today the window is their.


How do you know that they wouldn't find anything. Everyone thinks that there's no one on the planet capable of finding anything illegal on someones car.
August 20, 2020, 09:19 AM
Phil Dees
Anyone been caught yet? Anyone built one to prove it can be done? Are the same guys still winning?
August 20, 2020, 10:50 AM
1320racer
No, No, Yes
December 26, 2020, 10:38 AM
B KING
quote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
I’m proud to say this has gotten a lot of attention very quickly and has some of the smartest people in the industry working on prevention methods. It’s my belief detection will not be possible but prevention will. I’d say this will be accomplished in an extremely short period of time. I can’t thank those who have reached out enough. You all know who you are. Stay tuned!


quote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
I talk to a lot of racers, real good racers, and I consider myself to be slightly above average, not elite, but slightly above average.

I HAVE to have a good race car, because I don't own a horse shoe if you get my drift.

I along with most TOP TIER racers aren't afraid of cars that go dead on, because they know it's attainable. HELL I had 3 runs in a row within .001 this past weekend with cars that had never been down the track! and I know I can make them better.

Now the starting line is a different story, if you take the human element out of letting go, our sport as we know it will end. I along with some very smart and moral people will not let this happen. I don't have many muscles, but I'm flexing them on this subject.

You won't believe the progress made in 24 hours. Get ready!


Has this fizzled out or still progressing?


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December 26, 2020, 12:31 PM
Bucky
I thought I remembered that there was going to be tree sensing prevention and further back than that, some study to see how effective riding the dots really was.

The FACT of the matter is, that no matter how much prevention is implemented, some will still claim that the winners are cheaters. And, I don't doubt that some are breaking the rules.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
December 26, 2020, 02:31 PM
n5ifi
quote:
Originally posted by Phil Dees:
Look for crew members with "cameras" on the starting line. The sensor is not in the car.


What's pointed at the tree when it activates?
Look at the drivers helmet and look at the drivers suit for devices wires that could be connected from driver to car in the seat area.

Both No Electronics and Electronics alike
December 26, 2020, 02:36 PM
1320racer
as I stated 6 months ago...

quote:
Originally posted June 10, 2020 09:31 AM by 1320racer:
I appreciate and support Scott's efforts but nothing will come of it. In the meantime, lets start with mandatory inspection of car and driver at 16 cars and then impound the 2 finalist cars at the ticket booth and subject the driver's to search, have them remove their fire suit in front of officials and hand it too over for inspection.

December 26, 2020, 03:07 PM
n5ifi
quote:
Originally posted by Wild Wild West 2:
A tree sensing device can be made and is no doubt being used by some people. I know it can be made because I built one back around 1990 as a project when I was in school for my Electronics degree. It was a small plastic box with a single small circuit board (that I built) powered by a 9 volt battery that had a remote mounted photo eye (sensor) that was tuned by the manufacturer for receiving yellow light frequency. I had an adjustment to null out the ambient light that would change just from time, clouds, or area lighting and to also null out the pre-stage and stage lights (they were all yellow back then). I had it wired in with the delay box trigger (button) so that it would break the circuit of the button (as if I released the button) when it detected a flash of yellow light. It was activated by pressing the transbrake button and would release on its own when it saw any yellow light. All you had to do was manually release the transbrake button before the delay box timed out to prevent it from re-engaging the transbrake. I never tried to perfect it and install it on a car because I just wanted to see if I could build it.

So yeah, if I can build one back then, Lord knows what is out there today.

Maybe a way to defeat one would be to randomly flash some yellow lights around the tree ??? But then again, they are probably using a laser sight at a specific bulb and not just looking for yellow light.

Oh yeah, I did test it on the work bench by using my practice tree. So I know that it worked.


Yep
December 26, 2020, 03:13 PM
1320racer
Nope! It was internet forum bs 6 months ago and it's still internet bs.
December 26, 2020, 06:43 PM
Eman
I think there's a company named Dominion that made something like that for use in Venezuela but then it was confiscated by the military in Germany.
December 27, 2020, 07:34 AM
Tim Mitchell
But dominions unit only stole elections not racer money ..
December 27, 2020, 08:41 AM
n5ifi
While we are on this subject, the way I understand it, I wouldn't let a FUELTECH equipped car or any other manufacturer of similar data collection/other equipment anywhere NEAR a bracket race.
We are already doing that by the way. The cheat device is in the car. It's literally mounted, secured and wired into the car. What the **** else do we need to know or see? We are so damn dumb and in love with the almighty dollar that we open our minds to anything. China is a perfect example of that. If you don't understand that yet, you will.
December 27, 2020, 12:45 PM
Boucher Jr
Gimme a fucn break, this shyts simple. Make it mandatory for every bracket car in the country to have a clutch and an old vertex mag with the only wires on it goin to the starter. Or keep all the self driving automobile parts and keep crying about it. For the record, ya'll doin burnouts at 6k on the chip and not even smokin the tires are an embarrassment to the United States of America!