Bracket Talk
Pittsburgh Raceway Park

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January 15, 2011, 11:59 AM
Kevin Romeo
Pittsburgh Raceway Park
Green,

I feel that the reason for the two point pass is for people who take a vacation with their family or something along those lines. I feel that the pass is nice only because I can take a week and head to another track or try something different for a weekend. I think the pass is a great addition to the point system only for those reasons. In the past we have had a better sign up for points if the track allows for some off weekends. Myself I would live at the track if they would let me but others feel that points feel like a job come mid July. Looking like a very promising year at PRP once again, cant wait to get back at it! Dragster is done and ready to go, just a few small changes Smile. Looking forward to WOW next week the dragster will be there for the show.


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World Class Transmission
Jones RV
January 15, 2011, 12:14 PM
green1
Kevin,
Wouldn't it be better then to have the best 13 out of 16 or something in that line instead of giving away free point? I agree with feeling tied to a track when running points just don't agree with giving away points for free. The simple thing would have been to only count 15 out of 16 races and you must declare your off weekend before the first round of that day,then everybody would have one points day off and there wouldn't be any free points. Just my opinion and I do like the payout at the end of the season.
January 15, 2011, 01:23 PM
1355PRO
quote:
Originally posted by green1:
Kevin,
Wouldn't it be better then to have the best 13 out of 16 or something in that line instead of giving away free point? I agree with feeling tied to a track when running points just don't agree with giving away points for free. The simple thing would have been to only count 15 out of 16 races and you must declare your off weekend before the first round of that day,then everybody would have one points day off and there wouldn't be any free points. Just my opinion and I do like the payout at the end of the season.


I like that 13 of 16 idea..Wink


Eric Macchiaroli
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January 15, 2011, 01:29 PM
Balaska347
We have used the pts pass before and pretty much almost everyone will need to use it at some point so its usually a wash anyway. Green I understand your point I just dont think it plays a big enough role in the results to worry about it either way.




89 Mustang GT - PX98
Rodeheavers Hotrod Shop

January 15, 2011, 01:49 PM
27Keith
Best way I have ever seen it done is win a round get a point. No show up pts,no best of stuff,no double pts,no 1st rd worth more than an other rd., no nothing except win a rd get a point. The "passes" just dont seem right to me.
The "best of" stuff could really change the outlook of the pts race. Lets say a guy doesnt win a race all yr but goes at least 3 rds at every one of the races. The next guy wins a couple but also has some first rd losses. Who ends up winning the pts? The first guy drops at least 3rd rd losses the other guy drops first rd losses. JMO!


4 X Track Champion ( 2 & 2 )
2 X Run off Winner
January 15, 2011, 02:06 PM
jeffrey10x2
i really like the way they have it set up this year.
never really was a big fan of the 2,2,2,1,1,1 thing.
if you won 2nd round all year, you was right there near the top of the list. it did keep it tight, but the 1 point per round win makes you earn every point you get.
also glad to see they limited when you can use the points pass, you cant wait till the last race and use it and have to claim it within a certain time frame after the missed race.
its gonna be an exciting year. now its time for IHRA to start posting some contingency sponsors for the weekly racers.


4X02

www.schooledbyscotty.com
January 15, 2011, 07:35 PM
John_Gover
So if you show up and get your show up point, then lose first round, can you turn in your points pass and pretend you didn't show up?
January 15, 2011, 08:24 PM
sbchevy
They have your tech card showing you were there ,so i would say NO!!
January 16, 2011, 08:12 AM
Triple Nickel II
quote:
Originally posted by jeffrey10x2:
now its time for IHRA to start posting some contingency sponsors for the weekly racers.


That program was dropped last year.

The only SSS contingency payouts were for the Bracket Finals.


January 16, 2011, 10:41 AM
jeffrey10x2
didnt know that,
guess that means no ugly decals covering up the paint this year. Tongue

i still remember what ryan would tell me about decals on his jr,
if they dont pay, they dont go on.


4X02

www.schooledbyscotty.com
January 16, 2011, 10:52 AM
ChuckT
Looking good, I am a big fan of the points being 1 point per round. I like the show up point.. works for both the racers and the track. Racers get something for a first round loss, instead of nothing, and the track gets racers coming in knowing they'll get at least that point if they stage. I like the points pass better than the dropping 1 or 2. I agreee with Mike, it won't matter much. And like Keith said, the drops can really affect the outcome of the points. When we did the drop 2 a couple years ago, it affected different classes a lot more than I thought it would have. Also nice to see the boost in the payouts for points.

John, points are accumulated based off of the racer's number. So if your points number is in there for first round of eliminations, you wouldn't be able to use the points pass.

Wayn3, did the weekly program actually get dropped "officially"? I noticed that there was no weekly contingency last year, but had chalked it up to the economy and sponsors having to pull back.


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January 16, 2011, 11:30 AM
DADDYWAGS
QUESTION, THE STAGE POINT DO YOU HAVE TO BREAK THE BEAM TO GET THE POINT OR JUST SET THE TOO LIGHTS.
January 16, 2011, 12:26 PM
Leadhead15717
quote:
Originally posted by ChuckT:
And like Keith said, the drops can really affect the outcome of the points. When we did the drop 2 a couple years ago, it affected different classes a lot more than I thought it would have

I can testify to that as in 09 we had more 1st round wins than anybody in our class but due to the best of we had to drop 10 points which tied us and we lost in the runoff :-)


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Always "Thinking of Nikki"...
January 16, 2011, 12:39 PM
green1
Instead of doing the best of,why not just 13 out of 16 and you must declare if you are running for points that day before the first round and if you run the first 13 points days then that is your total,last 3 won't count no matter what.
January 16, 2011, 02:22 PM
Ed Galanda
Ok I want a Cadillac CTSV like this one. Built engine, blower, nitrous, full interior, drag radials on Corvette Z06 wheels.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ma...c#p/u/54/yNTl38xi6Bg


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2004 Mustang GT
2004 Dodge Ram 4x4
January 16, 2011, 02:22 PM
Tony Fagnilli
I think if you did the 13 of 16 deal, racers would still think that they would have to be there every week. The thought would be that all of my competition is going to be there trying to do better, so, I have to be there also. The 13 of 16, or something else like that deal doesn't give the racer a break. In the 30 years that I've been racing, I joined points only twice. I think it's to much work and it takes up the entire summer.
January 16, 2011, 02:25 PM
Tony Fagnilli
Ed, those cars come stock 556 HP.
January 16, 2011, 02:31 PM
Ed Galanda
quote:
Originally posted by Tony Fagnilli:
Ed, those cars come stock 556 HP.


I know still an awesome car stock let alone this one.

See what happens once I get my new engine finished Wink So much to order and do yet.


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1984 Mustang GT350 Convertible
2004 Mustang GT
2004 Dodge Ram 4x4
January 16, 2011, 04:35 PM
Glenn and Joan
A great guy in a yellow truck told me years ago that if you show up and just go a few rounds each week you will always qualify for the bracket finals - he's been right so far!
The 2 point pass is a great idea (JMO) cause due to work or vacation or family or whatever - sometimes a racer has to be a "no-show" and its nice to have an option.
In other words - YAHOO PRP !!! Let's go Racin'!!!!


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January 16, 2011, 10:55 PM
Balaska347
quote:
Originally posted by DADDYWAGS:
QUESTION, THE STAGE POINT DO YOU HAVE TO BREAK THE BEAM TO GET THE POINT OR JUST SET THE TOO LIGHTS.


I would think, once you stage the car you bought the race. The pass is for a "missed" points day. Or if you would break in time trials you would probably be able to use it but once you stage 1st round you raced.




89 Mustang GT - PX98
Rodeheavers Hotrod Shop