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Pittsburgh Raceway Park

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November 04, 2010, 10:16 AM
Bob Deniker
Pittsburgh Raceway Park
I don't think it was a gasket issue Mikey. Were all the head bolts tight when you took it apart? I don't mean did you not tighten them, I mean could the bolts have stretched a little and lost some clamping force?


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November 04, 2010, 10:36 AM
Balaska347
They seemed to be tight. They were new arp head bolts though. I dont retorque head bolts either. I dont know if you guys do that or not. I have ran that gasket before with know problem.




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November 04, 2010, 10:37 AM
Balaska347
Happy birthday Rich Ice Cream




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November 04, 2010, 10:49 AM
Mark Romeo
Happy Birthday Rich!! Hope you have a great one!!


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November 04, 2010, 11:19 AM
Bob Deniker
quote:
Originally posted by Balaska347:
They seemed to be tight. They were new arp head bolts though. I dont retorque head bolts either. I dont know if you guys do that or not. I have ran that gasket before with know problem.


No retorque for me either. I just set the impact gun on high and turn the air pressure up the whole way. Braaaaaapapapapapapa. It's all good. Big Grin


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November 04, 2010, 12:24 PM
Mr. Obvious
Just my $ .02
were the intake or exhaust valve pokets laid back any on the last head rebuild? Looks like the gasket may have been in the cylinder area around the intake or exhaust valve pocket wall on those two cylinders. And Tony this would be normal for you now that you are on the bottle.


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November 04, 2010, 12:36 PM
rich penn
Thanks all for the b day wishes,wish i was 29 joan,my wife says i act like im 15 Rolling.At least i have an exciting nite planned as me and my daughter are going to her preschool open house,also bummer about gobblefest kids were looking forward to running down the track in the race durango


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November 04, 2010, 12:44 PM
Balaska347
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Obvious:
Just my $ .02
were the intake or exhaust valve pokets laid back any on the last head rebuild? Looks like the gasket may have been in the cylinder area around the intake or exhaust valve pocket wall on those two cylinders. And Tony this would be normal for you now that you are on the bottle.


The combustion chambers were CNC'd the last time.




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November 04, 2010, 12:57 PM
Ma Brewer-Christine
I know those were "fail pros", but call cometic and I don't think you need a certain finish. Either that just buy a bigger impact gun. Torque is where's it's at!! lol


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November 04, 2010, 01:27 PM
JoeyB
Cometics all the way Mikey. I have 5 plus seasons on my engine and I've never had an issue. Spelic was having some head gasket issues until he switched to Cometics, too. I too never retorque the heads and I'm using factory head bolts. JM2C.
November 04, 2010, 01:38 PM
prest911
thats what most hacks do!! Rolling Rolling
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Deniker:
quote:
Originally posted by Balaska347:
They seemed to be tight. They were new arp head bolts though. I dont retorque head bolts either. I dont know if you guys do that or not. I have ran that gasket before with know problem.


No retorque for me either. I just set the impact gun on high and turn the air pressure up the whole way. Braaaaaapapapapapapa. It's all good. Big Grin



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November 04, 2010, 01:41 PM
Bob Deniker
Haha Prest...You gotta put the gaskets on upside down too.

F er. Rolling


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November 04, 2010, 02:23 PM
John_Gover
quote:
Originally posted by Balaska347:
quote:
Originally posted by Ma Brewer-Christine:
Cometic gaskets.


Thats the plan so far I just dont like the idea of having to have a certain finish on the head and block.


If you don't have access to a really good head / block surfacer, you can surface them with a less than great finish and then hand finish to get a lower Ra for the cometics. I have used silicon carbide wet sandpaper wrapped around a ground block in the past. Seals up to 30+ psi boost with intake temperatures over 300° on my bike. ( The bike is aluminum / aluminum, but shouldn't make much difference on being able to get the finish).
John
November 04, 2010, 03:06 PM
Mr. Obvious
bite the bullet.
O ring the block,
put in head studs,
use a copper gasket....


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November 04, 2010, 03:08 PM
Tony Fagnilli
Looks fine to me.
November 04, 2010, 03:58 PM
ChuckT
Bob, I thought it was airgun til a bolt breaks, then back the psi down 5 pounds?? Tongue

John, Mikey knows, GMS = not worthy


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November 04, 2010, 04:28 PM
John_Gover
CoolIf he can get it to GMS, Gregg will get it as smooth as he wants, no question about it! Ice Cream

I will be doing a spare head and block at GMS, in case I have issues over the winter on Gregg's dyno at 35 psi.... Car
November 04, 2010, 06:31 PM
Mr. Obvious
why don't we start a list on here of improvements at PRP for next year?
I'll start it off.
Get rid of the steel guide rails and grass between them and the strip.
NEXT ------>?


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November 04, 2010, 08:15 PM
Ed Galanda
quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Obvious:
why don't we start a list on here of improvements at PRP for next year?
I'll start it off.
Get rid of the steel guide rails and grass between them and the strip.
NEXT ------>?


That would be a very good improvement. Major safety improvment at that.


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November 04, 2010, 11:08 PM
Thriller
How about new bulbs for the scoreboards?