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sure wish i had jesels

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September 12, 2022, 07:39 PM
jenavet
sure wish i had jesels
Need some T+D rockers checked over and probably rebuilt.T+D says 8 weeks to analyze my parts to see whats required and then build time because they have nothing on the shelf and everything custom built.

Just for giggles called jesel and was told 1 to 2 weeks with plenty of parts and components on the shelf.
They both do the same thing and certainly share alot of components.
September 12, 2022, 07:54 PM
Big Steve
Give Trevor at Manton a call, they can build Manton rockers for your T&D Stands. You will need them to build new push rods as their rockers has a ball on the rocker and cup on the push rod.
There stuff is the cats meow.
Get a hold of JR Baxter, he made the switch a few years back
September 12, 2022, 09:29 PM
seabass
Yep, Manton for the win....


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September 12, 2022, 09:35 PM
rusty
michael what is actully broke or worn


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September 12, 2022, 09:50 PM
jenavet
Rusty the steel exhaust is just the adjuster and fulcrum? The aluminum intake may be tweaked a touch
September 13, 2022, 08:19 AM
NC3x58
We're putting Jesel's on our 598 Trick Flow motor, they should be in within a month or so I believe if ordered now. Last I heard on T&D's is that they're like 4+ months out. And not gonna lie, I've seen more T&D failures this year than anything else to be honest... Not saying they're no good, and it may just be coincidence but I know Trick Flow recommends Jesel for their BBC heads anyway.


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September 13, 2022, 09:17 AM
Mike Rietow
On hold waiting on a set of steel 1.75 T&D's arriving Sept 15.

I used the 1.7 Jesels we have FOR SALE to check for P to V clearance.





September 13, 2022, 09:30 AM
rusty
having just spoken with manton ,i too think a call to them may help you


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September 13, 2022, 09:36 AM
1320racer
If you use anything other than T&D rockers, you better have spares because if you break one on race day, odds are you won't find Jesel or Manton at the track. That said, I have many spare T&Ds in my trailer. Wink
September 13, 2022, 09:59 AM
TOP38
Mikey, no spares? Need to carry a few spares! As for Jesel vs T&D, both are good! T&D's pivot bearing is larger and stronger than Jesels'. T&D's needle roller tips have a service life depending on your spring cam combo, (axles go) but with this option you save wear on valve guides big time vs the standard tips. Ya, T&D is a much smaller company than Jesel so there is wait time.
September 13, 2022, 05:33 PM
rusty
manton has some parts for the t&d stuff


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September 13, 2022, 05:56 PM
SpeierRacingHeads
I've sold around 150 sets of Jesel rockers and honestly have never had a reported broken one. I put Jesel on my Super Stock engine.

With that said both companies have custom kits available for all my 23 degree heads.
September 13, 2022, 06:31 PM
Curly1
My stuff is Small Block Chevy but I have Jesel, T&D and Crower. They are all good but I think the Crower are the best. But nobody else would have any spares. In reality there are so many different motors, heads, shaft rockers and rocker ratios that you would be lucky to find anyone with a spare same kind for same heads and same ratio. I now try to keep some spare parts.


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September 14, 2022, 01:42 PM
Top355x
I belive I have half a set of brand new T and D rockers in the box for a SBC I needed offset intakes years ago
September 14, 2022, 02:16 PM
B KING
T & D here & carry a left/right spare set, 4 rocker arms (new); different ratios for intake & exhaust. USA


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September 16, 2022, 02:09 PM
TORQIN
Just bought a full set of rockers and push rods from Manton a few months back for the blower car. TIRED of T & D AND Jesel breaking. The Mantons worked with the T&D stands and I have spare Mantons just in case.
September 16, 2022, 05:34 PM
jenavet
I ordered some pushrods this week from manton and just called them back about TD campatible rockers and matt stated he has the zero offset exhaust rockers for my head but they dont offer my offset on the intake side.
so td my only option there
September 16, 2022, 10:45 PM
seabass
Exhaust takes mosr of the beating anyway


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""Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured ..but not everyone must prove they are a citizen."

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September 21, 2022, 12:10 AM
Mike Rietow
T & D steel



September 21, 2022, 05:32 AM
Footloose
What does comp eliminator run? Just wondering.