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Time to freshen the 598 in my car and i’m wanting to put a set of rods in it this go round. This shortblock was originally assembled in 2006 and still has the same crank, rods, and pistons. I believe the rods are 6.800 length and they are Manley I beam pro series or whatever their top of the line rod is called. They have been good, but wasn’t sure if the newer stuff was still the same quality. I was personally leaning towards the Callies Ultras but wanted to hear some opinions before pulling the trigger on anything. This is a typical 1000 hp deal, 99% 1/8 mile, 7400 max rpm, 10.2 deck, 4.5” stroke bracket engine. I’m not opposed to any brands and not stuck on any brands either, just want a reliable engine that I can run 250-300 runs a season on without issues.
 
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Not BBC but I have Molnar’s in my BBM and Mike Janis said they were a very nice piece when he built it.


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I don't know what your price range is but for around $600 the Molnar CH6800VTB8-A is a very good rod.

If you're not opposed to "off shore" parts the best of those IMO is the CBC-6800I rod from http://www.racingpartsmaximum.com all their BBC rods come with ARP 2000 bolts and can be bought for around $400

Obviously you know to address crank balance if whatever rod you decide on is lighter than 30-ish grams or heavier than 10-ish grams
That's assuming your crank was balanced at a standard 50% bob weight originally....

Retired after 45yrs and closed my shop so I'm not trying to sell you anything. Just some info to help you make a choice..

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Originally posted by Stephen Hughes:
Time to freshen the 598 in my car and i’m wanting to put a set of rods in it this go round. This shortblock was originally assembled in 2006 and still has the same crank, rods, and pistons. I believe the rods are 6.800 length and they are Manley I beam pro series or whatever their top of the line rod is called. They have been good

These rods have been in this engine for 11 years and you're considering another rod?


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The Manley Pro I beam is a good USA mfg rod ,Have some running for years in BBC bracket engines.Bill C.


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Posts: 141 | Location: Paterson N.J. | Registered: September 21, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm assuming the post above meant....

"These rods have been in this engine for 11 years and you're considering another brand rod?

This particular question, in that context, does have merit.


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Have to agree.If they worked for 11 years I would buy another set and never look back.


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Without seeing the new Manley's I'd go with the Callies rods or Crower.
 
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If they worked for 11 years I would buy another set and never look back.

In the old day I would instantly agree, but..... With today's outsourcing and marketing you can't depend on consistency. At least not across the board.



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Originally posted by Stephen Hughes:
Time to freshen the 598 in my car and i’m wanting to put a set of rods in it this go round. This shortblock was originally assembled in 2006 and still has the same crank, rods, and pistons. I believe the rods are 6.800 length and they are Manley I beam pro series or whatever their top of the line rod is called. They have been good

These rods have been in this engine for 11 years and you're considering another rod?


This was precisely the reason for asking the original question. I haven’t purchased rods for 11 years. How do I know there isnt a better rod out there and how do I know that the Manley is still the same quality rod as I’ve tun all this time? At Sema the Manley rep told me I should be changing them every 2 seasons in my application. Seemed like kind of a short life cycle for a top of the line steel rod in a 7400 rpm bracket motor.
 
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Originally posted by imakehp:
I don't know what your price range is but for around $600 the Molnar CH6800VTB8-A is a very good rod.

If you're not opposed to "off shore" parts the best of those IMO is the CBC-6800I rod from http://www.racingpartsmaximum.com all their BBC rods come with ARP 2000 bolts and can be bought for around $400

Obviously you know to address crank balance if whatever rod you decide on is lighter than 30-ish grams or heavier than 10-ish grams
That's assuming your crank was balanced at a standard 50% bob weight originally....

Retired after 45yrs and closed my shop so I'm not trying to sell you anything. Just some info to help you make a choice..


At this point price isnt an issue, i’m going to spend the money if needed to make the engine as reliable as it can be for years to come. I’m not opposed to saving money either, but I dont want to cut any corners on this piece. I can afford to freshen it but I cant afford to blow it up and start over.
 
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Manley Pro Series are still made in nj.
If they were outsourcing they'd be dirt cheap like an h beam rod.
I can even sell you a set if desired when the time comes.
 
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Oliver Rods is what I would go with. Manley Rods are good as well as Callies. It is all personal preference, I like Oliver

Many places make their rods in America, but not only does Oliver make them in america, but they also get their material from america and the material is also inspected to meet aviation standards

so Oliver Rods are made in america and the material comes from america. I dont know if this is the case or not with competitors
 
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Manley’s have served me well in any engine that I have had. Steel or aluminum


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Both my engines, one built by Huntsville and the other built by Sunset Racecraft have Callies Ultra I beam rods. I can also tell you that Tracy Dennis told me that Oliver rods were junk.


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Wish he had told me that before HE put them in my 582...”
 
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It's what he told me.


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I run Callies Ultra I-Beams in my 565. I put in a new set every 1000 passes and haven’t had any issue. Good pieces!


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Lot's of people run Oliver but in my opinion the Callies Ultra HD I beam is a better rod.
 
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