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I was watching a dragster and how the driver stage it and was unable to figure out how he did this. Most racers cautiously roll into the first beam, a few back into both and then the first, this guy aggressively rolled in and hit both (sometimes) and without delay backed into the first only. It was too quick to be using reverse. It almost look like to bumped back as if the T brake was touched and released and the slick acted like a spring.
Anyone know how this is being done?



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this has been posted before. Even a youtube video about it. I "think" it is a quick brake jab that causes the reward roll.


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search you tube....troy williams staging
 
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K Underwood is the master at this Hum
 
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It's hard to see his hand on the shifter but I'm guessing this is done in neutral?


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K Underwood is the master at this Hum


I believe Kenny uses Reverse.


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Did anyone understand what Troy said as far as why he does this?

It's funny what you see when watching others stage.

I saw a few TD cars that looked like they backed all the way back into the wet area. Others that creap forward in like 10 moves.
Painfull to watch



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Can't say why Troy does it, but I back into the pre stage beam so I know I have less than 1 inch to stage every time, no guess work here. Would have to believe his intentions would be similar.
 
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I believe he is trying to keep the side walls worn evenly.....!
 
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The backing up slowly, dropping the stage light out, stop......stage very carefully has won a boatload of $$$ for the people I know that do it successfully....


I tried it once......redlighted.

I felt a little uncomfortable doing it so I never tried it again but think it is a better way to stage....


I have no idea what that video, backing up deal is about and never saw it done...
 
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Get your pipe rack rolling at a fast walking pace, neutral it, jab the brake pedal (quick on and off) right when the bottom flickers on, soon as the light goes back out stop again.... Turns your sidewalls into a spring and backs you out.

Its only cool if you do it first... Apparently Gary Williams is the one. The rest would be copy cats...!!! Razz
 
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Can't say why Troy does it, but I back into the pre stage beam so I know I have less than 1 inch to stage every time, no guess work here. Would have to believe his intentions would be similar.


I do the same.
 
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Does it matter how many rim screws you have as to how springy it will be? Big Grin


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Best staging method: what ever is the most comfortable for you as a driver and not against the rules.

I saw nothing wrong or against the rules in the video.
 
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Think Troy said to keep the car straight. Backing into the beams you can be at a little angle.
I back into the beams and leave the top bulb on, closer to lighting the second bulb. I take really small bumps to stage and don't want to take to long to stage. JMO


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Paul there was a H/R car doing it also, it's probably going to be the next "cool" thing that everyone will be doing, like beadlocks on 10 sec cars.
 
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Paul there was a H/R car doing it also, it's probably going to be the next "cool" thing that everyone will be doing, like beadlocks on 10 sec cars.


They have been doing it for the last 10+ years, so its not the "latest fad". Others have tried but cant seem to master it. I used to do it back when I first saw it and had my Chevy II.... I did it with the trans brake button and it worked ok. I could never get the brake pedal method to work for me. It was something different and fun to do for a while....


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Paul there was a H/R car doing it also, it's probably going to be the next "cool" thing that everyone will be doing, like beadlocks on 10 sec cars.



If you're talking about this past week-end IHRA race, and the H/R entry was a blue Nova, that was Troy Williams' entry too. He was in T/D and H/R. I believe he was in the finals both days in both classes...


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I do that to be close to stage so I can take very small bumps. I don't do the back in thing because I don't feel like the car is always perfectly straight . I do it in neutral by hitting the brake and stopping it when the stage light goes out. I have done this sense I was 15 in street cars. I wouldn't try to teach some one to stage that way it is kind of tricky to get the hang of . Underwood does it in reverse by hitting the button , I am just lazy and didn't like working the shifter that much. Staging consistently is one of the most important things you do as a driver . Whatever you are comfortable doing that you are sure you can repeat time and time again is what you should do .
 
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