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anyone have any experience using the titanium beadlock bolts...they saying you save 2lbs over the steel bolts but at 100 mph they are saying that is 90lbs less of rotating mass
 
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I have some friends with a A/ND and from what he told me you install the steel bolts first and then remove and replace them one by one with the titanium ones. Sounds like a pain to me. Good luck!


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I switched one set of my wheels to Ti bolts, saved 1.75lbs, saw no difference in ET.


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I switched one set of my wheels to Ti bolts, saved 1.75lbs, saw no difference in ET.

I think you would have to combine it with other areas of weight loss to see the cumulative differeence
 
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Its one of those items that add to other gains that are also hard to see. If hundred is .1 then 1 would equal .001 and anything could cancel that out,like one extra rotation of tire. I know rotating is suppose to equal 10 times weight,still only .01 to .02 at very best and how long are you running the speed required to make that difference.

Look at econo(huge LMAO) guys they do tons of trick stuff to get small gains,because they know it adds up.

Its like diet coke and liquor .Adding liquor adds clots of calories and sugar,but diet coke still makes it less than regular coke and liquor.




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ironic part is .Going with beadloc adds lot of weight then you spend money to remove part of it. Like my grandfather use to say. Spending money to make you have to spend more money.




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If you want to save weight just do NOT use Bead Locks. You'll save a lot more weight not too mention $$$$.


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just do NOT use Bead Locks. You'll save a lot more weight not too mention $$$$.

aren't they required at a certain point in top dragster?
 
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just do NOT use Bead Locks. You'll save a lot more weight not too mention $$$$.

aren't they required at a certain point in top dragster?


SFI Spec 15.1 rear wheels with beadlocks or liners madatory on any vehicle that runs 6.50 and quicker or 210 mph and faster.


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Mike,
No, as Lenny pointed out.
Get a regular set of 16" wheels with liners.
Lighter and less $$.


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Less money if your starting with nothing but not if you already own a set of beadlocks.
Also you choice of tire would be more limited would it not be? Also could not mount them yourself. Just would need to weigh the pros and cons with the weight savings I guess
 
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I guess it dosent matter at this point moser just sent me a pair of lightened axles which weigh 4.2 pounds more than my old moser axles so ...so much for reducing weight.
 
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Titanium rim screws FTW


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MW has Ti wheel studs...………...


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anyone have any experience using the titanium beadlock bolts...they saying you save 2lbs over the steel bolts but at 100 mph they are saying that is 90lbs less of rotating mass


I agree with saving weight but I think those estimates saying that 2 Lbs = 90 Lbs rotating weight is grossly optimistic. Real world performance difference is .00? Yet if you add an actual 100 Lbs it will slow about .1


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I switched one set of my wheels to Ti bolts, saved 1.75lbs, saw no difference in ET.


Yes you did, it was just in your wallet! LOL
 
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anyone have any experience using the titanium beadlock bolts...they saying you save 2lbs over the steel bolts but at 100 mph they are saying that is 90lbs less of rotating mass


I agree with saving weight but I think those estimates saying that 2 Lbs = 90 Lbs rotating weight is grossly optimistic. Real world performance difference is .00? Yet if you add an actual 100 Lbs it will slow about .1


Maybe because we convert everything to straight line performance, obviously, when in reality that might be relating to centrifugal force. Just a thought.

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I switched one set of my wheels to Ti bolts, saved 1.75lbs, saw no difference in ET.


Yes you did, it was just in your wallet! LOL


I didn't spend as much as you might think. They are actually studs and nuts, the used wheels I bought had well worn bolt holes from the bolts being too short so I needed longer bolts or studs anyways. I found the Ti studs and nuts that someone had purchased new and wouldn't work for their wheels, they fit perfect in mine. Paid about 1/2 of what they were new.

Still not cheap though......


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We have done it in the heads up car. It aint cheap for one, and not sure you will find a lot of et there but when you need every .01 in a heads up car that needs to make weight you do what you have to. We replaced the beadlock bolts and studs with titanium versions. Lost almost 5lbs total on the car. We also went to ceramic pinion and side bearings in the diff, so hard to quantify the gains.

We get all of our titanium hardware from here. Great service
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ti studs are not a lot more than steel and I figured why spend twice to save now. Also think the 2 is 90 at 100 is highly questionable.

As to effect of hundred lbs equal .1 I know that damn close. I think when you break it way down the effective gains breakdown quicker than the math.




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