Bracket Talk
Dragster lift winch
June 09, 2022, 08:03 AM
jenavetDragster lift winch
Ive got a new 34 fT vintage that was braced and wired for a dragster lift.I figured i midas well use it since its 75 percent there. Can anyone reccommend a good winch to use? I dont want to use pulleys,it has a plate welded dead center over the top of the dragster nose so i would like to mount it there.I called superwinch and they said they dont reccommend any of their winches for this purpose.
June 09, 2022, 08:06 AM
SP 124XWe use a HF 1500lb atv winch with a nylon cable. I'd imagine anything in that 1500lb class would be relatively the same size.
Denis LeBlanc
June 09, 2022, 08:29 AM
Big SteveThe way your luck has been going this year, I dont know if you want the dragster hanging over the top of the Vette
June 09, 2022, 09:02 AM
HolytownI used a chain hoist hand pully on mine. Super easy.
June 09, 2022, 09:46 AM
S/C718I bought an ATV winch and when i lifted it the brake in the winch wouldn't hold and it would just lower back down. I would suggest a super winch.
June 09, 2022, 09:50 AM
Bob PaytonI use an ATV winch as well. Has worked fine for years
June 09, 2022, 12:01 PM
DragRaceResultsFor safety reasons, there's a difference between a hoist and a winch. Do your research.
SL...
June 09, 2022, 06:21 PM
Kenny Andersonquote:
Originally posted by jenavet:
Ive got a new 34 fT vintage that was braced and wired for a dragster lift.I figured i midas well use it since its 75 percent there. Can anyone reccommend a good winch to use? I dont want to use pulleys,it has a plate welded dead center over the top of the dragster nose so i would like to mount it there.I called superwinch and they said they dont reccommend any of their winches for this purpose.
For liability's sake I don't think any winch manufacturer will "recommend". I have used several different ones. Warn from Northern Tool, Champion from Tractor Supply, Superwinch, Etc. All worked fine but I never went less that 2500lb capacity. Many times I looked for 3500lb. This is an area where I don't think skimping to save a buck is a good idea. Almost all of the winches I mentioned are under or around $200. Are you making a stand for your air bladder??
June 09, 2022, 09:09 PM
Buckyquote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
For safety reasons, there's a difference between a hoist and a winch. Do your research.
SL...
I don't see any 12v hoists as I am searching.
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
June 10, 2022, 08:57 AM
Camaro80zquote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
For safety reasons, there's a difference between a hoist and a winch. Do your research.
SL...
I agree with Scott on this one. We used a 2500 lb winch for over 10 years and had no issues, but I would never recommend using the winch to hold the weight.
As soon as the car was high enough, the stand went under the driver seat and the bar went under the front end and held the tires in place.
I saw people use the dragster lift to try and work under the car with some scary results
June 10, 2022, 10:59 AM
jenavetI would never use just the winch for support lol..she would go up on the with then s beam under it with saddles for the front tires and weight goes on that.kenny how should the middle of the car be supported if you have pictures?
June 10, 2022, 11:00 AM
jenavetquote:
Originally posted by jenavet:
I would never use just the winch for support lol..she would go up on the winch then a beam put under it with saddles for the front tires and weight goes on that.kenny how should the middle of the car be supported if you have pictures?
June 10, 2022, 11:46 AM
1320racerMichael, I been using Superwinch’s LT3000ATV since 2018 without issue.
June 10, 2022, 10:28 PM
Lenny5160quote:
Originally posted by jenavet:
I would never use just the winch for support lol..she would go up on the with then s beam under it with saddles for the front tires and weight goes on that.kenny how should the middle of the car be supported if you have pictures?
Tony Leonard
June 10, 2022, 10:35 PM
Buckyquote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by jenavet:
I would never use just the winch for support lol..she would go up on the with then s beam under it with saddles for the front tires and weight goes on that.kenny how should the middle of the car be supported if you have pictures?
Does that really stay put? I would have guessed that to walk out from under the car.
Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
June 11, 2022, 05:39 AM
1320racerNo support under my car as well as several friends and competitors that have gone down the road 10s of thousands of miles for over a decade.
June 11, 2022, 07:27 AM
Curly1Sure sounds funny to me that some say YOU MUST USE A CHASSIS BLADDER UNDER A DRAGSTER because of chassis flex and bounce. That more damage is done to chassis while towing with out one than racing. One trip could break your chassis and destroy your car. Blah, Blah, Blah. Fair enough and but I find it ridiculous that it is not needed if you jack up front.
You need it or you do not, can not have it both ways. I do feel the dragsters should be supported in the middle especially front engine dragsters since they flex so much. 4 link cars are a little stiffer chassis. I do not think they are really needed on short stiff chassis like Altered or door cars but certainly would not hurt anything.
Still someone explain to me how it will destroy your dragster if you do not use one (Unless you jack up the front). If 235 inch car flexes and bounces then it does it front up or not. Maybe 1 or 2% percent less because of minor center of gravity change but nothing major.
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June 11, 2022, 07:46 AM
Lenny5160quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by jenavet:
I would never use just the winch for support lol..she would go up on the with then s beam under it with saddles for the front tires and weight goes on that.kenny how should the middle of the car be supported if you have pictures?
Does that really stay put? I would have guessed that to walk out from under the car.
I tow a pretty good number of miles, and the only time it’s ever come out was the trip home from Denver last year. Anything you set with air pressure in Denver will deflate greatly when you return to a more normal altitude/atmospheric pressure. Lesson learned.
Tony Leonard
June 11, 2022, 08:12 AM
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Left side
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Most critical areas are from in front of the seat to the frontal area of the engine. Go for a ride in a trailer down the road. Trailers are ground pounders. Don't kid yourself.
June 11, 2022, 10:41 PM
AlaskaracerAny winch that has an internal brake will work, but I'd secure it with a safety strap just in case....pretty much all winches that have the brake are rated to hold the max pull power of the winch....so hanging weight off if it shouldn't be an issue, but there can always be "that one time".......
Mark Goulette
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