Bracket Talk
Ever have one of these go south on ya?

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July 10, 2022, 10:27 PM
Mike Rietow
Ever have one of these go south on ya?
I thought it seperated a tire, I pulled off the road on I-4 in bumper to bumper traffic around Disney, on the ride home from Orlando Speed World. Tires looked great.

It's definitely this assembly, I tried a couple different wheels and tires on it today, monkeying with it in the back yard.

Wobbles.



July 11, 2022, 08:09 AM
I Hate Dragsters
I've had to put bearings in mine from time to time.
July 11, 2022, 08:22 AM
BP758
Harder to get timken bearing$! Every trailer now comes with cheaper bearings.

To answer your question, yes.


Raceless in California!
July 11, 2022, 08:43 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by I Hate Dragsters:
I've had to put bearings in mine from time to time.


I took everything apart yesterday, cleaned it spotless, could not find anything obvious.

Repacked the bearings, and bolted everything back together per Dexter axles instructions, 50ft lbs torque and and back the nut off, without turning assembly finger tight.

Still wobbled two different wheels and tires , over tightened spindle nut and it still wobbled two different wheels & tires.

Ordered one new assembly and brake shoes both sides..... We'll see.

I could visually see in the side rearview in stop and go traffic from slow takeoff, the trailer wobbling side to side. I pulled off 1-4 twice thinking a tire was seperated.
July 11, 2022, 08:56 AM
Mike Rietow
It's the rear axle passenger side. Wheel and tire in front of it rolls straight , no wobble with trailer jacked up (tires off ground).
July 11, 2022, 09:03 AM
I Hate Dragsters
A buddy broke a spindle a few years ago, maybe give the spindle a look for a cracked weld?
July 11, 2022, 09:26 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by I Hate Dragsters:
A buddy broke a spindle a few years ago, maybe give the spindle a look for a cracked weld?


Will do Sir...
July 11, 2022, 09:33 AM
markemark
Have you tried removing the bearing “races” and replacing with new? 12" drums?
July 11, 2022, 09:58 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
Have you tried removing the bearing “races” and replacing with new? 12" drums?


Yes 12", Bingo That's exactly what I was looking at races.

Nothing told me try races, and I'm ready to speed up a no wobble scenerio. So I ordered a new assembly $86 with seal, nut, pin, races and bearings.

I'll keep results posted. Parts should be here Wednesday, Thursday.
July 11, 2022, 10:11 AM
mrperf
Sounds to me like you have a belt broke in the tire
July 11, 2022, 10:19 AM
wideopen231
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
Have you tried removing the bearing “races” and replacing with new? 12" drums?


Yes 12", Bingo That's exactly what I was looking at races.

Nothing told me try races, and I'm ready to speed up a no wobble scenerio. So I ordered a new assembly $86 with seal, nut, pin, races and bearings.

I'll keep results posted. Parts should be here Wednesday, Thursday.


I would check the bearings in that deal.Sounds too cheap. I am a broke dyck according to king dyck, but most of the time too cheap sounding is for reason. Just saying.




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July 11, 2022, 10:39 AM
I Hate Dragsters
quote:
Originally posted by I Hate Dragsters:
I've had to put bearings in mine from time to time.



should add, always put in new races when putting in new bearings.
July 11, 2022, 10:50 AM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by wideopen231:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
quote:
Originally posted by markemark:
Have you tried removing the bearing “races” and replacing with new? 12" drums?


Yes 12", Bingo That's exactly what I was looking at races.

Nothing told me try races, and I'm ready to speed up a no wobble scenerio. So I ordered a new assembly $86 with seal, nut, pin, races and bearings.

I'll keep results posted. Parts should be here Wednesday, Thursday.


I would check the bearings in that deal.Sounds too cheap. I am a broke dyck according to king dyck, but most of the time too cheap sounding is for reason. Just saying.


china slave labor rates, owned by an American company like everything else.

They pay the chinese so little, they can afford to use good materials.

No overhead either for these American companies, the factory is there, the American companies just show up with blue prints of what they want built.

I fought buying chinese manufactured products for 20 years, it's someone else's turn. I sacrificed long enough, it took me out of racing.

It's not chinese, it's American companies hiring chinese slave labor.

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July 11, 2022, 11:09 AM
Mike Rietow
Everything you see in this photo is made by American companies in china. Except maybe the rocker arms and valve springs (PAC) (GM block).

It's all gorgeous well manufactured.

The heads are manufactured by china slave labor for an Australian company, and assembled in Tennessee for Nickels.

Most people have no idea these are American companies, not chinese.


July 11, 2022, 11:25 AM
Mike Rietow
I'll post photo's of the drum assembly, I guarantee it's high end quality.

That's the sad part for future generations of Americans.

They won't have the ladders of opportunity we had.
July 11, 2022, 12:06 PM
BP758
We lost a dexter axle coming home from Phoenix. Right at the 90deg where the spring pad is. Might look there. Rims not cracked? Center…?


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July 11, 2022, 12:06 PM
markemark
When I removed the races from my Dexter 12” drums manufactured 2003 they were stamped China and the bearings were Romania. In 2019 I replaced races/ bearings with Timken and their boxes stated some content could be foreign. I was advised on DRR by another to look at NTN Bower bearings made in USA.

I just replaced the brake assemblies with factory Dexter (USA made) this year after the rear axle brake material disintegrated from the shoes. Couldn’t figure out what happened, and the drums were perfect. The front axle brakes were perfect and only thing helping stop the trailer.

I also have factory steel 15” wheels and they wiggle slightly as well that was shown to me when I had new tires replaced 3+ yrs ago. Said they wouldn’t balance out properly because of this. I purchased new aluminum wheels recently for the next set of new tires. These aluminum wheels are China like everything else.
July 11, 2022, 12:17 PM
Mike Rietow
quote:
Originally posted by BP758:
We lost a dexter axle coming home from Phoenix. Right at the 90deg where the spring pad is. Might look there. Rims not cracked? Center…?


My spare tire (same aluminum mag wheel) has never been run,..... it wobbled too.

There's always a possibility the old drum assembly needs races/bearings.

My plan is to expedite the wobble with a new assembly, and rebuild the old assembly timken inner and outer as a spare. I'm definitely not gonna chuck it to the junk man, until I know for fact it's scrap.
July 11, 2022, 12:51 PM
1320racer
Timken bearings are made in China and other shyt holes.
July 11, 2022, 01:07 PM
markemark
quote:
Timken bearings are made in China


I just looked at my spare Timken bearing set for trailer I keep in the truck purchased in 2019. All Timken boxes say “Made in USA W/US & Imported Content” and both bearings and races are engraved USA on them.