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Hey guys I am running a 9 sec door car on gas. I wanted to switch to alcohol but a lot of people are telling me not to. Any thoughts (pros-cons)would be great guys. Thank you
 
Posts: 34 | Location: NYC | Registered: November 06, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Had gas in my last car and switch to alky in the new car. Would never go back to gas. For me more consistent and temps arent a problem.


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alcohol or E85 would be a lot better than gas. you will never go back to gas if you switch to one of them
 
Posts: 17 | Location: arkansas | Registered: August 25, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Here's my take .........

*Alcohol is usually faster
*Runs cooler
*Much cheaper than gas
*Most say more consistent ......

*Harder to warm up in cooler weather
*If car sits longer than a few weeks, can be a problem
*Smells like shyt
*Usually uses twice as much fuel as gas


Gas for me is just easier, but not necessarily better .........
 
Posts: 1059 | Location: Monroe twp nj | Registered: December 05, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I would run alky over gas any day of the week unless I run in a place where the temps are typically in teh 50's racing. The biggest thing is getting a carb built by a reputable builder and running a belt drive fuel pump that is sized correctly. Other than that all the horror stories are from people that don't know what they are doing or didn't have the right stuff to do it.
I have run Alky since 1997 and have one many many championships running it, as have many others. Looks that the Couchlins, alot of the CARs cars, the richardsons, the gulitti's, the Biondo's, Bolgaki's etc..... there is a reason for bracket racing,


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Posts: 2635 | Location: Rockwall, Texas | Registered: June 25, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Run gas for S/R S/G ,,,but I'm thinking of alky since I'll be bracket racing more often.


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Posts: 714 | Location: Glenshaw PA | Registered: February 25, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have a ProStar 500 Pump with Filter with a 5 gal cell. I think that all should be good for alky. And another reason thinking about the change is I won a new Get'em garage carb. Supposed to be a real nice piece. They are building it for my engine set up.
 
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I only bracket race
 
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Originally posted by The Bozman:
I have run Alky since 1997 and have one many many championships running it, as have many others. Looks that the Couchlins, alot of the CARs cars, the richardsons, the gulitti's, the Biondo's, Bolgaki's etc..... there is a reason for bracket racing,


Want to take another stab at this? I can't understand the point you are trying to make.

To stay on-topic, I prefer alky. The only negative is dealing with the volume of it that I need to store and transport with two cars.


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Bozman is right the horror stories of alcohol are from those who did not know what they were doing or how to tune you car. Most set them up WAY TOO FAT at idle. That causes milking of the oil and hard to warm up.
Also you have to get it good and hot at end of day to evaporate water out of the oil. Do that and run top lube and you will not have any problems. Alcohol is cheaper, usually faster, runs cooler and consistent.
One other thing I have a moving blanket that I throw over motor when it is cold outside to help it retain heat when it is cold outside.

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I run a mid 9 sec bracket car with a terminator and love it. As Tony mentioned only big draw back is haulin enough.
 
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Tony, I’m with HS professor and I’ll alzo add that if your car is border line hooking every pass, the additional torque produced on alcohol, will have you spinning at he hit and will require a shock adjustment at a minimum.

IMO and 99% of my friends and competitors over the last 26 years, there is no good reason to run our bracket engines on alcohol.

Btw, I’ve never heard of that carb builder.
 
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if you are lazy ...gas . if you are not lazy and desire running your engine a lot to get it warm to run then more to get hot enuff to cook the water out of it ...alcohol . maintaining your fuel system after each race ...alcohol . choking with tears running down your face when the car is running ...alcohol . hauling around barrels...alcohol . having a gas primer system to start it ...alcohol. investing in a case of brake clean ...alcohol . there is more ...alcohol.
 
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Btw, I’ve never heard of that carb builder.


Mike Laws and Trevor Wiggins have announced their new business venture – GET’M Garage. Focused on meeting the needs of today’s racers, GET’M Garage will supply carburetors, carburetor kits and specialty parts to carburetor modifiers and engine builders in the specialized racing industry.

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Headquartered in Orlando, Florida, plans call for the partners to open their all new shop in the coming weeks. Key to the long-range success of the new endeavor will be the bringing together an “A Team” of experienced technicians to ensure that the products they design and build are of the utmost quality and fill the need of the high-end performance enthusiast and racer.

“Mike and I look forward to racers being as much a part of GET’M Garage as we are,” adds Trevor. “We think you will be happy to see some of the industry’s top-notch enthusiasts join the GET’M Garage family.”


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Still ain’t ever heard of them.

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if you are lazy ...gas . if you are not lazy and desire running your engine a lot to get it warm to run then more to get hot enuff to cook the water out of it ...alcohol . maintaining your fuel system after each race ...alcohol . choking with tears running down your face when the car is running ...alcohol . hauling around barrels...alcohol .

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I've used some of the BLP stuff and it has all been top notch.

As far as alcohol. It's all I've ever run, but I can't imagine wanting to run gas since the majority of my racing is done in hot weather. Mostly good info in this thread for someone who wants to switch though.


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Some good info here:

http://www.killerrons.com/12.cfm


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Ed

Getum Garage is a new company starter by Mike Laws from Bolaws with a partner so I am sure the carb will be good!

As far as gas or alky vs gas goes,,

Simple - they both work and both can be very consistent when tuned right along with the rest of the combo!

There is nothing wrong with either!

Alky is not really cheaper because you use twice a much so cost is really a non factor.

If you lived and race in the heat of the south I can see a good reason to use alky but other than that pick your poison,, they both have pro's and con's,,, it really depends on the individuals wants and needs to choose! None of the con's of each are show stoppers either!!! If anyone tells you different as there seams to be a bunch of alky nay sayers out there, they are wrong, they just don't have the setup correctly.

Carb - choose any known builder for either fuels

Alky injection - talk to James Monroe!
 
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James Monroe is THE MAN for alcohol injection.
 
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