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Hello,
I have been running Hoosier 18400D05's on my 985 HP, 2100 lb swingarm single shock dragster the last couple of years.

They have worked great going down the track, but shake severely in the burnout. I have tried to adjust pressure and shock setup, but when the burnout has felt better the car has felt worse going down the track. I had the best success down track at 5.5 PSI and the shock setup on the stiffer side.

I have always run Hoosiers but I am open to all brands and hearing your results and opinions. Thanks.
 
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M/T #3183 X8 compound are the tires you need and want. They are one Bad ass tire!!

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You must have been under a rock MT 3190....FTW...LOL
 
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The best thing I ever did was switch to MT 3183 slicks. I'm not bashing other brands but I broke a lot of stuff due to tire shake. I made 4-link adjustments, every shock setting possible, new shocks/springs, pressure changes and nothing seemed to help. Depending on what size you need, the 3183 or 3191 have the same X8 tire compound and they work. I have over 250 passes on my 3183s and they work the same as they did when they were installed.
 
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If you have Beadlocks the little bubba 3190/3191 are both bad ass tires on a Dragster. I liked the 3190s better but I was running 4.40s and .990 60’s. Everyone says the 91 is a better tire for 4.70 and slower cars. I love the hoosiers on my doorcar but would never run them on a dragster again because of the shake issues and wasn’t as good going down the track as the Bubbas. What I saw was it took around 5 passes for them to settle in but man there smooth as glass
 
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M/T 3183 for years and I’ve had only one time I had some tire shake on a burnout.

It was very hot out and not enough water probably.

Easily 300 runs on 2 different sets and only one shaker...

They can probably go 300 runs !

I changed out a set at around 200 and there was tons of rubber left and there was no difference from old set to new.

Yes they do go flat.....It’s a minor annoyance.

To be fair no other tire shook on burnouts on my car either.

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If you have Beadlocks the little bubba 3190/3191 are both bad ass tires on a Dragster. I liked the 3190s better but I was running 4.40s and .990 60’s. Everyone says the 91 is a better tire for 4.70 and slower cars. I love the hoosiers on my doorcar but would never run them on a dragster again because of the shake issues and wasn’t as good going down the track as the Bubbas. What I saw was it took around 5 passes for them to settle in but man there smooth as glass


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I never had any issues with Hoosiers shaking until I started making more power. No burnout shakes. But man this year I couldn't consistently do anything right with the Hoosiers. I borrowed some MT's and couldn't make them shake if I wanted to. Borrowed another small 15" set, and they wouldn't shake either. I'm not saying my setup was correct with the Hoosiers. But the mt's wouldn't shake.


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If I remember right the 18400 D05 is the 14.5Wx32 tire. I ran that one for years and tried the C07 and also the 13.5 x 32 D05 tire. They were terrible. They were BRUTAL on burnout and broke all kinds of brackets and engine limiters.
I went to the 3074 MT tire and it was MUCH better. as an added bonus the MT 3074 works better in high Texas heat and even in colder temps. My Hoosiers would dead hook or when track temps got around 60* and low dew points tires would just blow away. My MT tires never do that. Sometimes here we get track temps around 150* and when we do my Hoosiers would pull up rolls of rubber off the track and it would skate around on top end. MT tires never had problem. That was on my 4 link altered. Same tire does not work as good on my hard tail front engine dragster. Still trying to sort it out.


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All of the above!

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Agreed...
 
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The 18400 is a 15". I ran that tire in a CO7 compound for years(15+).The DO5 is a softer compound. I was always ready to let go of the 3 step button and grab a ton of brake towards the end of the burnout. It was and is a good tire, however after going to the M/T 3084s I will never go back to the 18400. If staying with the 15inch wheel look no further than the 3084s!!!
 
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I've been very happy with the MT 3080 X8. It's rare I leave in 1st gear but when I do the car goes 4.7x/7.4x and has been great.


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Another vote for MT 3183. Have them on two 7.40 dragsters. Have run the Hoosier 18700 and they shake worse at the end of the burnout than the mickeys do.
 
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All the Hoosier dragster racers remind me of an old cigarette commercial, Tareyton cig's had many where the theme was "I'd rather fight than switch"...………….. Big Grin
 
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All the Hoosier dragster racers remind me of an old cigarette commercial, Tareyton cig's had many where the theme was "I'd rather fight than switch"...………….. Big Grin


No fighting or name calling any more. We post our results and opinions and move on. Hoosier used to be best tire for most of us, now it is MT and may be Goodyear in a few years who knows? Just depends on what works best for us.


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All the Hoosier dragster racers remind me of an old cigarette commercial, Tareyton cig's had many where the theme was "I'd rather fight than switch"...………….. Big Grin


No fighting or name calling any more. We post our results and opinions and move on. Hoosier used to be best tire for most of us, now it is MT and may be Goodyear in a few years who knows? Just depends on what works best for us.


Curly, this was meant as a joke only. There has been so much GOOD info posted about this topic over the past years now,, so it does amaze me that racers with this kind of problem don't know the answer by now! Dragster tire shake in the burnout is mainly a tire design caused deal. This is another area where MT's out shine the rest. Ya you can change how you do a burnout to minimize the shake,,, but it will still get you hard at times and this will kill gear sets and rear ends sooner or later!
 
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On my first dragster nearly 20 years ago I had Goodyears and inadvertently bought a stiff sidewall tire.

For some reason I never realized the tires I bought were among the 3 sizes Goodyear made going back many years for Pro Tree S/G type cars..

That was dumb because I had them when they first came out years earlier on a S/G- Bracket Camaro I drove a couple years..

Those Goodyears were heavy and shook so bad on my dragster I broke a pile of stuff and it got so bad I did not want to race !

I took them off and put Hoosiers soft sidewall tire that everyone was using on S/C dragsters.

They were better but still shook on a burnout sometimes....

I had heard M/T's were being used on cars all the way up to Alcohol Funny Cars and did not shake....so I bought a pair of M/T's to try ...A 15" high growth tire and those tires never shook, period....

Worked great in all weather....L-8 compound....

Been using M/T's mostly ever since...


Bought some Hoosiers one year and they had issues at times down track, losing traction....

Went back to M/T's.....No issues other than the go flat PITA....Don't care....

If I had beadlocks I'd try the 3191's or 3190's...
 
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My last two sets of MT tires do not leak and I did not put anything in them.


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thank you everyone for your input.

I did not have an issue with shaking until I stepped up my power,so it looks like I am going to have to try some mickeys. Thanks,.
 
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