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Dragster alignment

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July 07, 2022, 10:27 AM
Bucky
Dragster alignment
I can’t remember asking this here: we have an S&W soft tail dragster for my son.
Pushing it around on flat ground the wheel will turn right. Quite a bit. Rear end is centered and straight. Car strings straight. Rack snd steering are straight and centered. Wheels/tires are straight and have just a little toe in.
Seems like all the normal stuff checks out. It pulls a little going down the track. Nothing looks odd looking at the car


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
July 07, 2022, 10:30 AM
183N
Measure the rollout of the rear tires - is one larger than the other?
July 07, 2022, 10:43 AM
TD3550
Average toe 1/16 in.
July 07, 2022, 03:35 PM
Top355x
Everything said above I would also check the rod ends that make up the tie rods and if the steering shafts have any u joints might want to peek at those as well
July 07, 2022, 03:59 PM
imakehp
quote:
Originally posted by 183N:
Measure the rollout of the rear tires - is one larger than the other?


The issue 99.9% of the time.


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July 07, 2022, 04:00 PM
Bucky
No ujoints in the steering. Tie rods are not at all loose. 1/16 or so toe. I have not measured the roll out. But these tires came off my other dragster, which had no issue with this. i gotta say it's a head scratcher.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
July 07, 2022, 04:04 PM
imakehp
Measure or swap the tires and see if the problem follows the tire.


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Dave



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July 07, 2022, 04:31 PM
Big Steve
Try a bit more toe in, I have a friend that her dragster front would always hunt going down the track, change toe in to 1/8 per side, 1/4 total and the car goes straight down the groove now and no tire scrubbing. That little change made it a whole different car to drive.
Be worth a try, its free
July 07, 2022, 04:58 PM
Big Steve
If a simple toe adjustment does not help, since it a 4 link car you could always add some rear steer to the rear end housing. When I first switched mine to top dragster the faster I went the more the car wanted to go left in the middle of the track, rear steer cured that once I moved the housing the correct way as I was looking at it all wrong at first.
July 07, 2022, 06:36 PM
pentastarrail
Does it have any front end stagger.
If so, you may need a little more toe in.


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July 07, 2022, 07:57 PM
Bucky
Rollout within 1/4". It's just weird that even pushing it in the lanes, it will pull right. No stagger. I could stick a little more stagger in it. When I bought the car, the front tires were worn. I have a feeling that the PO had the same issue, and used more toe in.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
July 07, 2022, 08:38 PM
rusty
what about anti roll measurements


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July 07, 2022, 09:12 PM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by rusty:
what about anti roll measurements


What do you mean?


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
July 07, 2022, 09:23 PM
rusty
is it possible there is enough preload on the antiroll to make it walk a little bit in a distance


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July 07, 2022, 09:27 PM
rusty
just throwing thoughts could a brake drag and do that


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July 08, 2022, 05:22 AM
bry-war
If the left spindle is slightly lower or a significant amount of weight bias than the than the right it would push to the right due to caster.
July 08, 2022, 07:09 AM
Curly1
I would try swapping front wheels and see if that changes anything and makes it go left.


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July 08, 2022, 07:35 AM
Bucky
Great thoughts and things to look at


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
July 08, 2022, 08:54 AM
CURTIS REED
quote:
Originally posted by bry-war:
If the left spindle is slightly lower or a significant amount of weight bias than the than the right it would push to the right due to caster.


Caster was my first thought.



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July 09, 2022, 08:32 PM
Curly1
Let us know what you find out.


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