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I would think all division 4 nhra member tracks would be enforcing this in their weekly program.Calling it pro footbrake.
 
Posts: 33 | Location: Cooper Tx | Registered: February 22, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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And division 1 did the opposite, has always been footbrake in pro but now they are allowing transbrakes 2 steps and air shifters.
 
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Our track is still discussing if they are going foot brake or staying no-box for weekly brackets. I know a few drivers who are going to raise a stink if they go back.

My opinion is I won't run a button when every other track around me is foot brake. Limits how well I can do when I travel having to go back and forth.

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This is interesting, seeing NHRA Div 4 go this way, especially since the IHRA has now introduced the Sportsman (Footbrake) category this year.
I like to see a class for every bracket racer/car, so I have always been a fan of the way NHRA Div V has done at their bracket finals, with 3 classes - SP, Pro ET (No Box), and Sportsman/Footbrake.
But I suppose a lot of it has to do with car counts, especially at smaller tracks. Being realistic you probably need at least 32-plus entries in each category to make it worthwhile for the operators, and still be able to offer a purse that will attract competitors. So if you only get a total of 30-40 entries in FB and No-Box (combined), it makes sense to just run them all in one No-E class, instead of turning away guys with trans-brakes.
It will suck for some guys that have been using a Brake only for years, but you gotta adapt sometimes. I don't think any competitive footbraker should have problems running in a Trans-brake/No-box class. Going the other way is not as easy.
I've had to change my program to fit whatever the local track No-E rules go with, (several times), and I think it is definitely preferable to have it one way or the other in a given division, not both. If you race all year with a 'Brake in No-Box, then have to go to footbrake at the finals, that is a challenge.
So I agree with Curtis, a fella would be better off ditching the button and focusing on foot-braking.

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Typical of NHRA, still nothing standard across the country...... Div 1 tries and Div 4 screws it up.........

Anyway, HONOR Deep Staging and make it easy for anyone to be competitive no matter what they are driving and how they are staging, foot braking or trans braking, won't make a damn difference! Smile
 
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I totally Agree with you Mike. The 7 NHRA Divisions don't even crown their ET Finals champions the same. In Div 6 and 7 it is the Race of Champions winner with all other Div the ET Final winner as the champion.


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Problem is lack of tech. Transbrakes would be fine if cars were actually checked. Kind of like the grid arc module and the 7531 boxes. Never seen those checked for in super pro at any local events or bf and i’ve seen 7531 boxes in several cars. I think Our local track, HRP is still undecided on if they will go true footbrake or not for the bracket program.


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I have always said if you need a button run top. And if your track or promoter runs a foot rake race get the buttons out of the cars. Saw a pic of a added purse footbrake winner plainly showing 4 buttons on the steering wheel. Come on man
 
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Doesn't matter which HRA, they both have differences between divisions and tracks. Doesn't make any sense especially when they are a sponsored series with a world championship at stake.
After going with no box in their world finals IHRA has now decided to have another class of pure footbrake 1/8th mi. 7.50 or slower. This great and I hope a lot of tracks have this class.
 
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It does not matter to me but I do understand the concern with "Possibility" of cheating with a transbrake. I have not seen any cheating and do not care if my opponents run transbrake or footbrake.

With that said I tried real hard to make a transbrake work in my car and it simply would not work. My car will go red on a .400 (.370?) Pro Tree. I even use a JNT button on the Pro Tree. No matter what I tried I could not keep from going red on .500 tree So I am back to foot brake for bracket racing.

Big stink in Division 4 about transbrake or footbrake but I have stayed out of it as it does not matter to me.


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All NHRA divisions should run the same classes and rules that are run at the Finals in Pomona. Super Pro (Box), Pro (No-Box) and Sportsman (Footbrake). Don't need a button to run Pro.

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I have a friend who runs Super Pro and Pro foot braking and is very successfully in both. It always goes back to what ever is consistent in the way you race. I wonder how may races will be effected by this , back 12 years ago running in Pro I found that a trans brake make me more consistent. But I felt if I'm going to a brake I may as well go to Super Pro as the payout was always better.... Out here in Div. 7 I bet 75% of the Pro guys run a brake... Sure wish the NHRA rules were all the same from Div. to Div.


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I have run both footbrake and tranny brake. Currently I run a tranny brake and have been put on the trailer a bunch by others using footbrake. I don't think it matters and should be No-E.

Nick,
I'll bet in Div 7 that over 85% of the folks in Pro run a tranny brake.


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Yep Phil your right! I was thinking abou tall the slower 12 second cars...they seem to make up most of the foot brakers


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