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Poor Shaft Rockers. This was bad idea

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January 24, 2020, 06:47 PM
Mike Rietow
Poor Shaft Rockers. This was bad idea
Dremel for pushrod clearance. I don't recommend this. Terrible idea.

Anyone else made this mistake?

Warning, It won't work.





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January 24, 2020, 09:00 PM
Cashflow
I have to give you credit on this deal. That’s how most of us learn, by making mistakes. Hopefully you’ll get things worked out.


Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here I am.......
January 24, 2020, 09:32 PM
Mike Rietow
Thanks, I figured I'd throw it out with images of what won't work, not a good idea. It actually could've been worse, we had luck on our side because we made 8 or so pulls on the dyno and it had quite a bit of run time on it. We had a couple different converters in the car running and three different carbs getting everything ready. Finally ready to take it to the track and it broke a intake rocker backing out of the shop to put it in the trailer, which worked out good! Could have been much worse at 8000 plus rpm! This oughta fix her up permanent. These should've been on it from the git go, we're blessed being cheap didn't come at a higher cost to us.

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January 24, 2020, 10:09 PM
TD3550
Geez. Who's geometry idea was that? That last pic, looks like it's half way out of the rocker cup.
January 24, 2020, 10:17 PM
Mike Rietow
I was trying to find a photo to see it better, but the cup is the end of the pushrod , the rocker has a ball adjuster.

The camshaft is approaching an inch lift, 450 on the seat, 1400 plus open spring pressure.


January 24, 2020, 10:25 PM
TD3550
No offsets on the rollers?
January 24, 2020, 10:36 PM
Mike Rietow
Yeah, offset intake.
January 24, 2020, 10:44 PM
TD3550
Great you caught it. Should make some steam. Now you need a lighter car lol Jk lol
January 24, 2020, 11:05 PM
Mike Rietow
Yessir, I'm pretty pleased it didn't make it down the track! We're fixing to run this thing at Lights Out, if you're not doing anything that day check it out. Pretty cool new class they've put together DXP Street it's basically 3000 pds, sbc, sbf, sbm limited to cheater plate (350hp all it'll do) they hand you and put a seal on after you put it on the car, 4150 carb with cast base plate, 4150 un-welded on intake and a 275 DOT radial tire. We had to scramble around for a carb and intake because we had a dominator carb and intake on it. We finally got our hands on an intake Yesterday. It looks like we're gonna make it untested but that'll make it interesting. Should run alright we've been five teens 3-4 years ago before we started this engine project, with way less.
January 24, 2020, 11:22 PM
Mike Rietow
I think the hopes are is that it'll be a 5.0-5.1 class at the top of the heap, and it could be. I could be wrong but I'm thinking it'll be a little better than that looking at some of the cars in the class. I'm pretty sure there's a live feed of the race. This class has never been run before, so it's kinda up in the air where it ends up landing.
January 25, 2020, 10:34 AM
markemark
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Rietow:
These should've been on it from the git go, we're blessed being cheap didn't come at a higher cost to us.



Are these Crower ??
January 25, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mike Rietow
That's Jesel MarkeMark so we were able to use the stands at least. When the owner brought the aluminum rockers over originally I didn't have the heart to to tell him they weren't gonna be what we really needed after the money he had already shelled out plus this stuff is special order so we were kinda stuck with it, along with the fact at the time there were a couple racers we were aware of getting by with similar combo's to ours, running the jesel aluminum rockers who have since also went with a steel rocker. So, over time I told the owner we'll get this thing running, run it on the dyno a little and at that point he could make the call on how to proceed. The aluminum Jesel rockers are killer for typical applications but I posted this here so no one makes the mistake we did pushrod clearancing them. It's a good product but just never belonged in this application. I'd never touch em up for clearance again for a typical application either though. This is my suggestion, don't make the mistake I did. I believe if we had went with a tapered pushrod, we would have gotten some amount of service out of them, it's just so much better to assemble something permanent from the git go, preferred pushrod steel rocker.

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January 26, 2020, 07:52 AM
Mike Rietow
Pushrods getting one or two day air for shortening Monday first thing. The amount of adjuster above flush the top of the adjuster nut, is the amount the pushrod is too long. No big deal, we'll have em back next Friday and be down to just getting the intake work completed.