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Here is the letter I just received from SFI regarding my flex plate that came apart...


"Dear Jeff,

Our welding expert did detect a weld fusion problem in your CAT Power flexplate where the ring gear detached from the plate. Based on the serial number of the sticker, our records indicate that the flexplate was produced in 2004. We have reviewed current production of CAT Power flexplates (within the last 3 years, allowable service life per SFI Spec 29.1) and we have not seen the same weld issue, therefore, a recall of product is not necessary at this time. SFI has made CAT Power aware of your flexplate failure, and we have no additional evidence or findings to suggest that it was more than an individual occurrence or indication of a greater production problem. As far as any compensation with regard to your incident, that would be between you and CAT Power. We appreciate you bringing this to SFI for review.

Thank you"


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Humm....Not really sure what to say.. Hum
 
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I guess its good that you at least got a response....thats more than I thought you would get





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Thanks for sharing.

Very disappointing.
 
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Jeff, any chance that the tech department at the NHRA has seen your flexplate situation?


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quote:
Originally posted by Bruce Williams:
Jeff, any chance that the tech department at the NHRA has seen your flexplate situation?


Watch the rule book revisions. You'll know they saw it when the 3-year intervals suddenly become 3 months...

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Steve, it just dawned on me as to why we have to have an SFI flexplate shield. DOH!


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Mafia I thought your plate was new?


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Originally posted by LARAY:
Humm....Not really sure what to say.. Hum

I have just the right 2 words
BULL ****
Absolutely confirms all my suspensions about SFI.
 
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Originally posted by Scott Smith:
Mafia I thought your plate was new?


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Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:
Last night, very first pass on a new converter and new SFI flex plate,


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Based on the serial number of the sticker, our records indicate that the flexplate was produced in 2004.



Thats strange.


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Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:
Last night, very first pass on a new converter and new SFI flex plate, the flex plate came apart as soon as I hit the throttle in the water box. The teeth came through the case and through a CSI carbon tranny shield....cutting the coil off the back of the head, cutting fuel lines in half, bent the throttle cable, and the CSI scoop mount and throttle cable bracket. It chucked almost half the teeth off this brand new plate.

This could have been so much worse...as they picked up metal from the track pretty close to the on looking crowd. I'm glad this happened in the water box and not down track....as I had a 300 kit locked and loaded for a qualifying shot in the quick 8 program.

I'll post pics as it comes apart!
 
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Cats products are pure ****!!! Had a similar experience with one of their SFI approved balancers years ago. Kust got a song and dance from the people at Cat. Junk junk junk!!!!!


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Originally posted by 10.90streetcar:
quote:
Originally posted by Scott Smith:
Mafia I thought your plate was new?


quote:
Originally posted by OhiomafiaWireGuy:
Last night, very first pass on a new converter and new SFI flex plate,


quote:
Based on the serial number of the sticker, our records indicate that the flexplate was produced in 2004.



Thats strange.


Parts houses buy by the crate or pallet...they tend to sit until they sale...the big issue SFI didn't comment on in this email is the fact that CAT did not date the SFI sticker...the plate was made in 2004, but it may not have been stickered and sent out for a year or so...who knows.

I guess my point is that it was just as expected and CAT said it couldn't be...I'll be forwarding the SFI results to CAT and reopening conversation with them! LOL


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And you expected what?
And did you get what you expected?
And did your effort to expose some real s h i t welding go anwhere?

SFI= Stupid F ucking Idiots.
Making money from every sanctioning body testing the creme of the crop.
 
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This is great news for you. With SFI on your side saying the weld was bad you have the upper hand. If they give you any ****, you can go to small claims and win easy.




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quote:
Originally posted by DECON:
This is great news for you. With SFI on your side saying the weld was bad you have the upper hand. If they give you any ****, you can go to small claims and win easy.


It was never really about the money...more about giving a company the chance to step up, admit fault, and make things right, or at least try! All Woody, the owner of CAT and Chinese, did was point blame and show what a ****ty company they really are...all the way to the little old lady at the desk lying for him! I will forward the SFI email to him one time and ask him to reconsider his options...and his reconciliation!


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Parts houses buy by the crate or pallet...they tend to sit until they sale...the big issue SFI didn't comment on in this email is the fact that CAT did not date the SFI sticker...the plate was made in 2004, but it may not have been stickered and sent out for a year or so...who knows.


Funny that it was produced in 2004. I guess cause it sit in a warehouse all this time makes it ok, but as soon as the precious sticker runs out its junk...what a bunch of bull****!

SFI..just another money racket like NHRA.

I am all for things being approved or being safe, but its more than a little rediculous and has gotten waay out of hand.



 
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Check out this save. John says it's a CSR. It was about to go south. Looks like the weld just came off. Like it was welded to cold. http://www.bracketracingnw.com...49&t=30&p=6257#p6257

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You guys that are bashing the SFI are absolutely clueless!!! NHRA and SFI are completely independant of each other. The SFI sets the MINIMUM parameters for a part to be considered "safe". It is up to the manufactures to supply parts for testing and then keep the production parts at the same quality of the tested part in production. That is where CAT has failed. Why some of you guys buy this off shore junk and then want to blame everybody else for your bad decision is beyond me. Its your *** in the car and if you order a part and it looks like its poor quality, DONT USE IT and dont use the excuse that it has an SFI sticker so it should be good argument. You are the end user and its up to you to determine the quality of the part that you are using. Sorry for the rant but SFI is not the problem. The CAT quality is the problem and I think Ohio admitted in an earlier thread that he new better then to use that cheap flexplate.


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Gordon,

The pics that John has on that link show a CSR flexplate that has had the ring gear replaced by someone. That is NOT a CSR factory welded ring gear. Tell him to order a new CSR and not worry about it.


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