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I have a 12 bolt in a 1978 firebird with Strange C clip eliminators with 35 spline axels. Wanting to know if anyone has installed them Wilwood 140-4545 BD rear disks brake kit. Was there any issues installing them , and how do they perform.
 
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You are probably going to hear that if you don't buy Mark Williams or Lamb you can't get your car stopped. I just put on a set of Wilwoods on my 12bolt in the middle of last year. My car is light, but I have been really happy with them. I have Pinto discs on the front and used a Wilwood remote tandem 1" bore master cylinder for my set-up. I did put on different ends at the same time to get rid of the C clip eliminators, but after installing the kit I see no reason that yours would be an issue.

Take the time to shim the caliper centered on the disc and make sure you seal the bracket to the housing end and C clip good. Watch the clearance of the caliper to the wheel also.

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Have had Wilwood Rear brakes and a Mark Williams C-clip eliminator on my Nova for years. Been fighting a leak on one side forever but it is coming from the c-clip eliminator. No issues other than that perform well on my 3000lbs car.


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I had wilwoods on my old nova. Never a braking issue ever....


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This car is heavy at 3660 with driver. runs 10.70-10.80 at sea level. I wanted some Mark Williams rear disk brakes but after talking to there tech guy they said there rear disk brake kits were only made to fit there c clip eliminators .
 
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Take the time to shim the caliper centered on the disc..

Curtis, I have done this on my solid mount Wilwoods "just because". Don't want to expose my ignorance, but I will. If the caliper is fixed and the pistons come out however far on either side to meet the rotor they will pretty much stay there and should apply equal pressure to the rotor from there on. Where am I going wrong?



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Take the time to shim the caliper centered on the disc..

Curtis, I have done this on my solid mount Wilwoods "just because". Don't want to expose my ignorance, but I will. If the caliper is fixed and the pistons come out however far on either side to meet the rotor they will pretty much stay there and should apply equal pressure to the rotor from there on. Where am I going wrong?


You aren't wrong about the application of braking. That said if the rotor is to one side further, one pad will contact first pushing the rotor away and putting more wear on one side than the other.

Also I like to give myself the best chance of the rotor not rubbing on the pad if one side doesn't retract as far as the other or the rotor has a little wobble in it. You know, just the little things that add up.

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[QUOTE]Take the time to shim the caliper centered on the disc..


You aren't wrong about the application of braking. That said if the rotor is to one side further, one pad will contact first pushing the rotor away and putting more wear on one side than the other.

Curtis


Just to clarify.....Only on the first application of the brake pedal will there be any contact more on one side than the other. Once the brake pads make contact and the pistons stop moving, they will both then retract the same amount. Any re-application of the brakes will result in both pistons traveling the same amount and there will be no push in or out. The whole situation changes as the brake pads wear. At some wear point, the pistons will stick ****her out of the bores than on the other side. At that point, the piston may **** and not retract correctly leading to dragging brakes. It is always best to center the rotor in the caliper to avoid issues.
 
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Do yourself a favor and buy Strange instead. They are slightly more up front on cost, but the pad and rotor life are infinitely better
 
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Do yourself a favor and buy Strange instead. They are slightly more up front on cost, but the pad and rotor life are infinitely better


Infinitely better? Really? I really like Strange stuff and we are putting their brakes on a 9.40 car that we are changing the old back half out of, but I don't believe they are as much better as your post would lead one to believe.


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Wilwood or Aerospace for front stopping brakes which is a better brake set up.
 
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you won't find either in a professionally built drag car.


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I'd put jfz on it just to make everyone flip out. Razz Whatever direction you decide will be an update from your current.


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Wilwood or Aerospace for front stopping brakes which is a better brake set up.


I've got Aerospace front and rear on my 2800 lb. Nova and have no problem at all.

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JFZ is out of business. Looks like Sierra Racing Products has taken over their line.

I'm sure I'll catch flak for always recommending Lamb brakes. I've been doing this a long time and have learned a few things. Don't think I haven't had different brands of brakes over the years because I have, but my old saying still holds true.

"You can always make the car go faster, you get ONE chance to stop."

Do they cost more? Of course they cost more and I'm like everyone else, we all like a bargain. At this point in my life some things are just not a bargain. Brakes on my race car are one of them.

Good luck with whatever you decide!


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I was mostly joking about jfz...Lol


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I'm sure I'll catch flak for always recommending Lamb brakes. I've been doing this a long time and have learned a few things. Don't think I haven't had different brands of brakes over the years because I have, but my old saying still holds true.

"You can always make the car go faster, you get ONE chance to stop."

Do they cost more? Of course they cost more and I'm like everyone else, we all like a bargain. At this point in my life some things are just not a bargain. Brakes on my race car are one of them.

Good luck with whatever you decide!


Cash, thanks for not leaving me hanging on my earlier prediction. Rolling


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You're welcome Curtis, I would hate to disappoint ya.

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You might look at the Moser brake kits, i've been running them for a couple years now and have had good luck.
 
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You might look at the Moser brake kits, i've been running them for a couple years now and have had good luck.


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