The Split Thread

July 02, 2019, 04:27 PM

442OLDS

The Split Thread

How would you have voted to split if you were fortunate enough to make the final 15 or 16 of the big payout race?

July 02, 2019, 04:39 PM

len281

I would think whatever the split the winner would get at least half of the original amount. Then again I probably have plenty of time to think about it.

July 02, 2019, 04:51 PM

Lenny5160

Generally you are voting for what the losers of the upcoming round will get. Each round you are voting for how much you can guarantee you will put in your pocket vs how much you want to race for later, if you're still around.

In the final round the talk is that there was $300K left and they decided to race for $160K/140K. $20K is a pretty spicy meatball to run a single round for and at the same time, $140K is nice guaranteed payday.

What would you have done?

July 02, 2019, 04:59 PM

442OLDS

quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
Generally you are voting for what the losers of the upcoming round will get. Each round you are voting for how much you can guarantee you will put in your pocket vs how much you want to race for later, if you're still around.

In the final round the talk is that there was $300K left and they decided to race for $160K/140K. $20K is a pretty spicy meatball to run a single round for and at the same time, $140K is nice guaranteed payday.

What would you have done?

I did not mean this thread to be negative.If I was ever in the situation,I would want to split too.

If the payout was posted as the split went,would people be turned off because they are racing for less than 1/3 of the posted $525K to the winner?

July 02, 2019, 05:21 PM

Bucky

I would prefer that they just sacrifice the sexy big number on the flyer and split it up, saving everyone from the inevitable. Round money is nice IMO.
The vast majority of folks who say they will never spit, have never been in the situation where they could. I'm not a guy who goes double or nothing enough times that he finally gets nothing.

July 02, 2019, 05:38 PM

markemark

With 15 drivers and over $600k in the pot at the 525k they did an OK job of splitting. At least they were “all” able to agree to a split. If one racer decided at that point he was not ready / willing to split, the others could still cut a deal with the person they raced that round.

I definitely would split at 16 or do a % payback with my opponent if the split wasn’t going to take place that round.

July 02, 2019, 07:19 PM

Hotrod Corvette

Being this was the biggest pay out for the winner in bracket racing history...Shouldn't the winner gotten the biggest pay day ever? Didn't the split at the Vegas Fling give the winner $260K? As I recall.

Winner should have taken $300

So how bad did they beat up the kid being he had the bye at 15? So I hear... But he did win...Karma perhaps

July 02, 2019, 07:36 PM

I.P. Dailey

When you guys get in the big money you can split any way you want.

July 02, 2019, 09:38 PM

Big Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
Being this was the biggest pay out for the winner in bracket racing history...Shouldn't the winner gotten the biggest pay day ever? Didn't the split at the Vegas Fling give the winner $260K? As I recall.

Winner should have taken $300

So how bad did they beat up the kid being he had the bye at 15? So I hear... But he did win...Karma perhaps

If you had the bye at 15 cars why would you agree on any split at that point, be like taking money out of your own pocket and giving it to others because your a nice guy.

July 03, 2019, 08:09 AM

ferndaleflyer

^^^^^^^ exactly

July 03, 2019, 09:45 AM

Lenny5160

quote:
Originally posted by Big Steve:
If you had the bye at 15 cars why would you agree on any split at that point, be like taking money out of your own pocket and giving it to others because your a nice guy.

I'd absolutely do it. You don't know who's pocket the money is coming from yet, and you'll want to be included in whatever happens the following round.

July 03, 2019, 09:49 AM

sr4440

quote:
Originally posted by Big Steve:

If you had the bye at 15 cars why would you agree on any split at that point, be like taking money out of your own pocket and giving it to others because your a nice guy.

That could get ugly if there were 33 cars left.
33 no split
17 no split
9 no split
5 no split
3 no split

unless you could convince the guy with the bye each round to give up some cash.

July 03, 2019, 09:51 AM

Big Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by Big Steve:
If you had the bye at 15 cars why would you agree on any split at that point, be like taking money out of your own pocket and giving it to others because your a nice guy.

I'd absolutely do it. You don't know who's pocket the money is coming from yet, and you'll want to be included in whatever happens the following round.

Why wouldn't you be included next round?, there will be 8 cars and no more byes. For there to be a split everyone has to agree.

July 03, 2019, 09:55 AM

sr4440

quote:
Originally posted by Lenny5160:
quote:
Originally posted by Big Steve:
If you had the bye at 15 cars why would you agree on any split at that point, be like taking money out of your own pocket and giving it to others because your a nice guy.

I'd absolutely do it. You don't know who's pocket the money is coming from yet, and you'll want to be included in whatever happens the following round.

yes you do know where the moneys coming from, it's coming from YOUR pocket, because your not going to lose on a bye.

Joe

July 03, 2019, 10:23 AM

Stephensx04

I was told it was 200/100 and 50k for semis and rest got moved down. Also the winner was a hired gun so he got less than that. I think the driver walked away with 47k or something like that. car owner got the rest

July 03, 2019, 10:34 AM

Lenny5160

quote:
Originally posted by sr4440:
yes you do know where the moneys coming from, it's coming from YOUR pocket, because your not going to lose on a bye.

Any extra money is coming from the winner's share, and everyone else gains. Your pocket has nothing in it yet that isn't printed on the flyer. Losing at 8 cars gets you what, $3K?

Anyone ever broke their car on a bye run before?

July 03, 2019, 10:37 AM

Big Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Stephensx04:
I was told it was 200/100 and 50k for semis and rest got moved down. Also the winner was a hired gun so he got less than that. I think the driver walked away with 47k or something like that. car owner got the rest

This is what's been posted in several places in the last couple of days. Of course it's on the internet so it must be true lol

Final 160/140K
Semi 50K
Quarters 34K
10K at 15 cars

July 03, 2019, 12:52 PM

Lone Ranger

Big Steve is Accurate on break down

July 03, 2019, 02:31 PM

sc4087

why don't all these promoters just split the money up front and advertise a realistic payout? you'd probably get the same amount of cars if not more with people going into this knowing they can get 10k @ 16 cars. I tell people all the time when they say they are racing for 20,50k that they are not racing for that much because it ALWAYS gets split up before the final.

July 03, 2019, 03:53 PM

MikeB4963

quote:
Anyone ever broke their car on a bye run before?

Likely has happened.

That might be why late round bye holder takes the green and backs it out. No burnout either.