Originally posted by BP758: A Honda 3000EU would be in the trunk!
From what I can gather, it's not powerful enough to charge one of these pieces of crap.
I could get behind a vehicle that is electric driven with a gasoline or diesel generator, like a locomotive.
Wasn't the Chevy Volt originally done that way?
Yes it was and a great vehicle!
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June 22, 2022, 11:26 AM
vetman
I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers
The difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is lack of knowledge. Stupidity is the inability to learn. Don't be stupid
June 22, 2022, 01:21 PM
1320racer
you ain't leaving. those that announce their departure, the drama queens like you never leave!
June 22, 2022, 03:50 PM
Goob
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Originally posted by Michael Beard:
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LOL, yeah, the interwebs are a great source of real world, unbiased information.
I ask because of the video posted by that young lady, who was furious about the reality versus the BS she had been fed. I think she was saying it was $45 or $50 bucks every 200 miles or so, and the hours of travel time wasted finding a charge
Re-read your post, but slowly...
That is exactly why I asked the question here, where I felt like a might get a real world, accurate answer.
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June 22, 2022, 05:04 PM
Roger McGinnis
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Originally posted by vetman: I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers
If you're learning from libtards, it doesn't make you smart. It makes you uber stupid.
Education never made anyone smart, just educated.
The smartest people I know, didn't need college. Some went, but only because it was expected and encouraged. These people had common sense and the ability to call out bull**** when they saw it.
I hope you're done. Go to your safe place and try not to melt.
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June 22, 2022, 10:01 PM
Tim Mitchell
I watched a video on you tube of this lady charging her tesla in some unknown dudes driveway at his Tesla installed charging station. He comes outside and ask this lady what she is doing, she says "I'm charging my car ,this site is listed on tesla website as a charging location". He's like really, well it's cool go ahead but this is my personal station. WTF No way some total stranger would be running my light bill up. So Goob to answer your question, it won't cost you a penny if you use a tesla owners charging station. Apparently locations are listed on the website. I did see a station at a hotel in Kentucky 2.50 per hour.
June 22, 2022, 10:36 PM
B KING
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Originally posted by vetman: I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers
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Originally posted by 1320racer: you ain't leaving. those that announce their departure, the drama queens like you never leave!
I somewhat agree with ED; you announce your departure but my money is you'll be back.
Now, for ED! The drama queen of all queen's; QUEENY!This message has been edited. Last edited by: B KING,
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June 23, 2022, 05:03 AM
Bucky
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Originally posted by vetman: I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers
Common sense, knowledge and wisdom have not moved. You just found yourself on the left sliding train and didn't hop off it. The brain washing has taken a good hold it seems. You will find RACERS of all levels of knowledge and education here. They are all wrong and you are right? C'mon.
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June 23, 2022, 08:42 AM
Goob
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Originally posted by Tim Mitchell: I watched a video on you tube of this lady charging her tesla in some unknown dudes driveway at his Tesla installed charging station. He comes outside and ask this lady what she is doing, she says "I'm charging my car ,this site is listed on tesla website as a charging location". He's like really, well it's cool go ahead but this is my personal station. WTF No way some total stranger would be running my light bill up. So Goob to answer your question, it won't cost you a penny if you use a tesla owners charging station. Apparently locations are listed on the website. I did see a station at a hotel in Kentucky 2.50 per hour.
Hmmmmm, $2.50 per hour. I'll assume it was for registered guests only.
"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375
June 23, 2022, 08:45 AM
Goob
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Originally posted by vetman: I find it very sad that this RACING site has become a uber right-wing cryin poster place -what a waste of time to come here Im done bye losers
Triggered!!!!
But, being a right wing Neadrethal, you will have to explain to me how asking an honest question about the EV charging cost is "uber right-wing cryin'".
Apparently you've "been done" for some time, Lemming.
"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375
June 23, 2022, 11:23 AM
CrewMan
About the question earlier on load and sizing.....
For a 4 charger commercial application....it required us to install a step down transformer from the main motor control center (which by the way these things used one entire bucket in that thing) and then put in an additional 250A 208v panel in - with a dedictaed 40A breaker for each station. Think about that...and this is for a commercial application...so your hotels and other charging places will be similar.
Not every business has that amount of open power to take from and residential applications....unless you worked with the power company if you custom built will even come close to having that much power available in a residence. Most homes have 100-150A service distributed through the house anyway and a good portion of that is taken up through dedicated circuitry for washers, dryers, HVAC equipment, microwaves, ovens etc...
So if someone wants to "up" their home service for one of these charging stations they are looking at a pretty significant investment and residential power work is a total PITA because NOBODY has any idea how much load they actually suck up until it's to late and it becomes the OH S H Y T....what circuit can we live without.
You wouldn't need the giant equipment I had to install but you will most likely need to increase service amperage, which will likely require a new panel and re wiring...and then either an exterior station or dedicated circuitry in the garage or outside to charge. Toss in underground fees, permits, etc....it just doesn't work.
I don't have a problem with these applications....I think it is kinda cool...but overall....something like is this NEVER a savings....it is an investment with a very long if ever and ROI based on the useful life of a car or a system such as this.
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"Some things are better left unsaid... usually it's the S**T I blurt out first.
June 23, 2022, 12:05 PM
BP758
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Originally posted by CrewMan: About the question earlier on load and sizing.....
For a 4 charger commercial application....it required us to install a step down transformer from the main motor control center (which by the way these things used one entire bucket in that thing) and then put in an additional 250A 208v panel in - with a dedictaed 40A breaker for each station. Think about that...and this is for a commercial application...so your hotels and other charging places will be similar.
Not every business has that amount of open power to take from and residential applications....unless you worked with the power company if you custom built will even come close to having that much power available in a residence. Most homes have 100-150A service distributed through the house anyway and a good portion of that is taken up through dedicated circuitry for washers, dryers, HVAC equipment, microwaves, ovens etc...
So if someone wants to "up" their home service for one of these charging stations they are looking at a pretty significant investment and residential power work is a total PITA because NOBODY has any idea how much load they actually suck up until it's to late and it becomes the OH S H Y T....what circuit can we live without.
You wouldn't need the giant equipment I had to install but you will most likely need to increase service amperage, which will likely require a new panel and re wiring...and then either an exterior station or dedicated circuitry in the garage or outside to charge. Toss in underground fees, permits, etc....it just doesn't work.
I don't have a problem with these applications....I think it is kinda cool...but overall....something like is this NEVER a savings....it is an investment with a very long if ever and ROI based on the useful life of a car or a system such as this.
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Pretty much answered my questions! Thanks Crewman!
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June 23, 2022, 01:09 PM
Lenny5160
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Originally posted by CrewMan: About the question earlier on load and sizing.....
For a 4 charger commercial application....it required us to install a step down transformer from the main motor control center (which by the way these things used one entire bucket in that thing) and then put in an additional 250A 208v panel in - with a dedictaed 40A breaker for each station. Think about that...and this is for a commercial application...so your hotels and other charging places will be similar.
Not every business has that amount of open power to take from and residential applications....unless you worked with the power company if you custom built will even come close to having that much power available in a residence. Most homes have 100-150A service distributed through the house anyway and a good portion of that is taken up through dedicated circuitry for washers, dryers, HVAC equipment, microwaves, ovens etc...
So if someone wants to "up" their home service for one of these charging stations they are looking at a pretty significant investment and residential power work is a total PITA because NOBODY has any idea how much load they actually suck up until it's to late and it becomes the OH S H Y T....what circuit can we live without.
You wouldn't need the giant equipment I had to install but you will most likely need to increase service amperage, which will likely require a new panel and re wiring...and then either an exterior station or dedicated circuitry in the garage or outside to charge. Toss in underground fees, permits, etc....it just doesn't work.
I don't have a problem with these applications....I think it is kinda cool...but overall....something like is this NEVER a savings....it is an investment with a very long if ever and ROI based on the useful life of a car or a system such as this.
CLASS DISMISSED!
I'm not going to argue against anything you said, but you don't NEED any of that to charge a car. You can just plug 'er into any existing 120V outlet, or get much faster charging with a conventional 240V outlet.
Tony Leonard
June 23, 2022, 02:18 PM
Curly1
About standing up complaining about ultra liberal policies some would just turn around bend over and take it.
I am going to stand up and fight. I am going to complain about it, I am going to vote to support our Freedom and I am not going to comply.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge.
Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue.
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June 23, 2022, 06:49 PM
BP758
120 volt yes but… only 2-3 miles of charge per hour! That’s Tesla’s print..
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June 23, 2022, 08:31 PM
Goob
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Originally posted by BP758: 120 volt yes but… only 2-3 miles of charge per hour! That’s Tesla’s print..
The lower the voltage, the more inefficient it becomes.
I used to set up skids of automotive batteries for charging. 240v DC @ 6 A for 18 12v batteries connected in series. 24 hr to charge, 24 hr to rest, test and sort the bad ones. Anyway, it was a HUGE electric bill to run 6 chargers.
"Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375
June 24, 2022, 05:26 AM
Footloose
You get a roof rack then put a harbour freight generator on top filled with $5 gallon gas and your set if pelosi turns your power off.
June 24, 2022, 07:38 AM
CrewMan
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Originally posted by Footloose: You get a roof rack then put a harbour freight generator on top filled with $5 gallon gas and your set if pelosi turns your power off.
"Some things are better left unsaid... usually it's the S**T I blurt out first.
June 24, 2022, 07:57 AM
Big Steve
AAA approved
June 24, 2022, 10:20 AM
maliciousintent
Great. Diesel powered truck to charge an EV. Show me the money.
