Just watched a review last night. They took a brand new F150 with a 6.2 vs an EV lightning.

Same 6,000 lb toy hauler trailer on each. They made it roughly 95 miles before the EV truck ran out of battery range, and needed a charge. No word on the charge time, but I would expect 2-4 hrs in the best case scenario.

If these trucks can't even make it 100 miles with a 6,000 trailer; they are far from doing truck things.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e55Vued028

brazil, russia, india, china, south africa stay on fossil fuels and 80% of the rest of the world.

russia has more energy than anyone.

A transition off fossil fuels is a transition to poverty for the west.

BRICS nations / monetary system

It is not just EV trucks, none of them are feasible for most of us. Too short of range, too few charging stations, those stations take too long to charge and nobody can tell us how much it really costs to run them.

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Originally posted by Curly1:
It is not just EV trucks, none of them are feasible for most of us. Too short of range, too few charging stations, those stations take too long to charge and nobody can tell us how much it really costs to run them.

And the guy with the small trailer blocked the entire charging area when he needed to charge!

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Originally posted by Curly1:
It is not just EV trucks, none of them are feasible for most of us. Too short of range, too few charging stations, those stations take too long to charge and nobody can tell us how much it really costs to run them.

Don't worry it's all gonna end in tears after a game of Cowboys vs satanists.

Relax

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Originally posted by Holytown:

If these trucks can't even make it 100 miles with a 6,000 trailer; they are far from doing truck things.

I'm more excited about the EV off-road vehicles. Imagine the fun that will follow after running the battery completely down when off-roading in the desert, or the mountains, or some swamp, etc.

The GM EV Silverado needs 4.5 hours min -9.5 full charge. Would imagine the Ford is about the same?
No thanks.

Barry, that is plug into a 120 house plug. You can charge any EV much faster but it comes a cost

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Originally posted by Mike English:
Barry, that is plug into a 120 house plug. You can charge any EV much faster but it comes a cost

Wow thanks, yeah I am wondering what amperage it takes to do that!

i saw this video as well. the guy in the gas truck made it back home 100 or so miles while the electric truck was still charging. and it sounded like the electric truck guy had to pay 20 something dollars for the 75% charge he got.

the only thing i want that runs off of a battery is a drill and an impact driver

ep

i watched a rivian and lightning sale for over 125k wholesale last week

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Originally posted by pauley:
i saw this video as well. the guy in the gas truck made it back home 100 or so miles while the electric truck was still charging. and it sounded like the electric truck guy had to pay 20 something dollars for the 75% charge he got.

the only thing i want that runs off of a battery is a drill and an impact driver

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AND some some small lawn equipment.....

Waite till they come out with the "Electric Driver less Semi's. An accident looking for a place to happen.

According to Google, the drive from Los Angeles to Philadelphia is 2710 miles. If the Ford F-150, towing a 6,000 lb. 5th wheel trailer, or race car trailer only got 95 miles before it needed a full charge (taking approximately 4 to 4.5 hours) that would minimally add another 108 hours, or 4.5 days to the towing time from LA to Philly.

This assumes that no additional electrical item (A/C, radio, head lights, brake lights, basically all things electrical etc.) were used which would reduce the battery charge life to less than 95 miles per charge.

It also assumes that you could find the proper charging system with the correct charging adaptors every time you needed a charge. Not likely. Question: Not to drive the point any deeper, BUT while those batteries are deteriorating what happens to the towing power level?

If this sounds impractical, you might be right.

Bob

https://www.reuters.com/busine...ar-rules-2022-07-06/


Poof up in smoke, there goes the new liberal orders plan for its subjects.

Looks like our vassal states are rebelling, we must've not given them enough of our strategic oil reserves, to keep em giving lip service.

Study Claims GMC Hummer EV Pollutes More Than With a 212.7-kWh battery pack that tips the scales at 2,923 pounds (1,325 kilograms) and a curb weight of 9,063 pounds (4,111 kilograms, the GMC Hummer EV is not your average planet-saving electric vehicle.

While EVs have zero tailpipe emissions, they are still responsible for greenhouse gas emissions, according to a study by the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE), a non-profit research organization focused on reducing energy waste and combat climate change.

The non-profit uses the Hummer EV as an example in this respect, calculating that the electric pickup emits 341 grams of CO2 per mile when accounting for emissions from the electric grid. That's significantly higher than the Bolt EV's 92 grams of CO2 per mile and exceeds even the gas-powered Chevrolet Malibu's rating of 320 grams per mile.

https://insideevs.com/news/597...an-chevrolet-malibu/


They don't only want everyone in a EV, they want everyone in a tiny little EV.

Years ago we had a young Lady bring in her Yugo to our Toyota Dealership because it would not start. She believed that we also worked on Yugo's since all Foreign cars are the same.

"Her" mechanic said that it needed a new starter. Actually what it needed was a new short block, and a starter. One of the connecting rods broke, exited the block and knocked the starter off. The starter was laying on the ground held only by the battery cable.

Bob

i was at a friend of mines ford dealership this week and he had a ford lightning pick up sitting there. he says you have got to drive that thing. so he threw me the keys and i took her for a spin. this thing was impressively fast and surprisingly fun. i was rolling about 30 mph and stomped the gas and it immediately lit the tires up and was quickly going 70+.

now i am not interested in anything electric and especially not for 80k. the no load range said about a little over 200 miles.

ep-just some first hand information for anybody interested.