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Rocky Pintavalle won both the $15K Fall Fling event this Wednesday AND the $50K Fall Fling event on Friday. He did this in a Duster (door car) with a three speed auto trans. Just saying. Maybe dragsters with Powerglides can be beaten? Wink Take care. Tom Worthington

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Yea I love the dragster advantage joke. That's why almost every big money race has door car or two in semi finals and thats when they start out with huge disadvantage mathematically.Heck normally 10 to 1 dragster to door cars. I knwo most run separate to point,but even then door cars are way out numbered and still end up about even by semi's.




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Yea I love the dragster advantage joke. That's why almost every big money race has door car or two in semi finals .


Maybe they should quit separating the door cars from the dragsters until the money rounds then.....
 
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Yea I love the dragster advantage joke. That's why almost every big money race has door car or two in semi finals .


Maybe they should quit separating the door cars from the dragsters until the money rounds then.....


Sounds like it. If they are that competitive, it should end up all door cars by the quarters.


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Well ,you can look at it a different way too,do you think if all door cars and dragsters raced together there would still be door cars left in the semi,s,dont care either way myself ,i think with the car and dragster turn-outs dont change a thing.
 
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Don't matter either way to me.IMO put a good driver in either and he has same chance of winning. Maybe reason for separating is so dragsters don't look bad.

Heck I'm dragster guy and the odd ball there with motor out front where I can watch it.LOL




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With weekend Rocky is having he could probably crawl into dragster this morning and be in finals.




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Obviously, I have zero experience with these type of big buck bracket races. However, at least from the outside, it appears that separating the door cars from the dragsters has helped increase door car participation. Again, from the outside looking in, I wonder how many door cars would have entered without this format? And just based on the current 2 (or more) to 1 ratio of dragsters to door car entries, what is the likelihood of any door cars hanging in there to even the semifinals, if they hadn't been separated?

Regardless, I am just in awe of the accomplishment of winning both of these nights in a door car that uses a three speed transmission. I do not know if Rocky runs alcohol or gasoline, but if it's gasoline, that would be yet another deviation from the usual script. Take care. Tom Worthington


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Boy the butthurt is strong .
 
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Boy the butthurt is strong .


Not at all. It was just mentioned that there are often door cars still in late in the rounds. And someone else in many cases they run seperate from the dragsters. It's no mistake why many highly competitive racers choose the rear engine dragster as their tool of choice. It's a competitive advantage recognized by pretty much everyone. AND it's impressive when door cars get it done against dragsters to some extent for that reason. But let's not overlook in some cases how that scenario came to be.
I don't even completely disagree with the practice when it shows to increase car count..But even that shows that door car drivers realize that their chances against dragsters if not separated are reduced. Really nothing to do with anyone's butt hurting.


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With true start now being used I feel like a big advantage was taken from dragsters. I honestly don't mind running dragsters at all in 1/8 mile. My friends that have dragsters tell me they prefer running other dragsters.


 
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I find it funny that so many people act surprised that you could win with the 3 speed.

Rocky did a great job this weekend. He's a multi-time Footbrake champ at Richmond. I understand he's only been box racing a couple of years.


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footbraker turned box,does he use foot or thumb for TB release?

As for dragster vs doorcar comment nothing to do with butt hurt. More statement that I do not see where dragster have any real advantage as far as being able to win rounds. A good number of big money races I have watched where won by door cars and some had 3 out of 4 in semi finals. Thats all I was pointing out.

A good driver in a consistent car can and will win races,rather it has doors or not. Thats all folks.




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First off, I am so happy and proud of my great friend Rocky for winning the two races at the Fall Fling. This was only his second big money event since making the switch to Top ET. Of course, he still footbrakes too. He made it to 4 cars at the WFC just a couple months ago.
He runs a 500+ cubic inch Mopar,727 trans, Dana rear. Mopar or no car in his program. Hoosier tires and a gas carb.

Not sure why this topic had to get hi jacked into a discussion about dragsters vs doorcars but I know at 8 cars on Wednesday he was the only doorcar and Friday there were 3 doorcars and 6 dragsters at 9 with Rocky being the only one left at 5 and sitting on the bye with a 000 light.

His car has been just as consistent as any dragster for 15 years. He has won many track championships at multiple tracks, won the bracket finals, won the raider series points, and now won 2 events at The Fling in his first year running it.

He does all his own work on his car and many others, and is a perfectionist with anything he works on.
Congratulations Rocky!! I’m so glad I was there to witness it and be a small part of your awesome week!!


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They don't run it here, but the Top Comp series, don't they run door car and dragsters together from first round?
 
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I know I will catch flak on this, but his doing his own work makes it more of accomplishment IMO.




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I don't know Rocky, but congrats to him. Regarding the advantage dragsters have over door cars. There's 2

1. If something is "off" with a dragster it's really bad. If something is "off" with a door car it might be a couple hundredths every now and then. What I'm saying is it's harder to tell that a bad combination is a bad combination with a door car.

2. The wind affects most door cars A BUNCH more than it affects most dragsters.


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First off, I am so happy and proud of my great friend Rocky for winning the two races at the Fall Fling. This was only his second big money event since making the switch to Top ET. Of course, he still footbrakes too. He made it to 4 cars at the WFC just a couple months ago.
He runs a 500+ cubic inch Mopar,727 trans, Dana rear. Mopar or no car in his program. Hoosier tires and a gas carb.

Not sure why this topic had to get hi jacked into a discussion about dragsters vs doorcars but I know at 8 cars on Wednesday he was the only doorcar and Friday there were 3 doorcars and 6 dragsters at 9 with Rocky being the only one left at 5 and sitting on the bye with a 000 light.

His car has been just as consistent as any dragster for 15 years. He has won many track championships at multiple tracks, won the bracket finals, won the raider series points, and now won 2 events at The Fling in his first year running it.

He does all his own work on his car and many others, and is a perfectionist with anything he works on.
Congratulations Rocky!! I’m so glad I was there to witness it and be a small part of your awesome week!!


He is running on gasoline rather than alcohol too? Daggone. Not the average bear (or bear hunter), for sure. Not worthy Take care. Tom Worthington


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I know I will catch flak on this, but his doing his own work makes it more of accomplishment IMO.


Not from me. That's always cool.


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It doesn't surprise me at all that Rocky is doing so well with a three speed. I ran a three speed torqueflite behind a 440 inch mopar in a door car for years.They were both super tough. I would never rebuild the torqueflite and only freshen up the engine about every three seasons.But of course when the reaction timers came out and then the delay box it got a lot tougher to win. I then had to go to a dragster with a BBC and a powerglide.But I still don't win like I used to.At one time I actually made money racing but now I am lucky to break even.
 
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