Bracket Talk
National Verses Divisional Win $$$

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March 08, 2022, 12:46 PM
Larry Scarth
National Verses Divisional Win $$$
NHRA National win in 2022 in Super Gas is $1,800 for a $340 entry fee. NHRA Divisional win in Super Gas in D-7 is $2,000 for a $200 entry fee. I like 10 to 1 much better than 5 to 1. Maybe it's time for NHRA to raise there National purse? How about $3,400 for a National win! In 1995 a National win was $1,800. Times are a changing! Hope NHRA does!


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March 08, 2022, 01:13 PM
HR3377
Yea right... Try Div 3 pay-outs vs entry, everyone knows its a loosing battle but the Wally....makes it all worth it Roll Eyes

I wander how they make payroll for Cali???
March 08, 2022, 01:23 PM
1320racer
NHRA Sportsman/Class racing was never about the winner's purse and was always about the Wally, competing against the best of the best. Nothing has changed or will except the cost to compete.
March 08, 2022, 04:41 PM
Big Steve
D4 is $200 for $2000/1000
March 08, 2022, 06:36 PM
442OLDS
I don't know if it is necessarily the best of the best racers.
One guy has won the first two National events in Stock Eliminator and his average reaction time is .050+.
That won't work at 99% of the bracket races around the country.
That is why I like Class Racing.It is possible to win with less than stellar performance.
March 08, 2022, 07:51 PM
Toad1
I agree they are the best of the best that entered that event, nothing more, nothing less.

Wallys are cool, got a few but in the end I would rather line up with 300 racers ready to beat the hell out of each other with great packages, great payouts and do it one day at a time.

I respect the racers who follow the NHRA trail of high entry fee money/ sadly weak payouts, but can't see where it was more difficult to win than a solid $5000 bracket race. Just costs a lot more to enter, $200.00 to hang around for three days and get treated like the red-headed step-child.

National or Divisional wins were worth a LOT more money 10-15 years ago when there was real contingency money involved. 2000 NHRA national event was worth about $12,000 with contingencies that actually paid and the three Divisionals I won each paid about $4000.00 after contingencies.


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March 09, 2022, 09:09 AM
DragRaceResults
quote:
NHRA Sportsman/Class racing was never about the winner's purse


It was in 1990.



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March 09, 2022, 10:51 AM
Yellow Ticket
$200/$340 entry fee to wait around for 3 days. Nope, I'll double enter at 2/3 day bracket races. You can keep the little man.
March 09, 2022, 11:11 AM
markemark
quote:
You can keep the little man.

X2, can’t take it to the bank
March 09, 2022, 11:49 AM
BP758
quote:
Originally posted by Big Steve:
D4 is $200 for $2000/1000


Smart move racing in D4
Comp buddies headed there...


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Raceless in California!
March 09, 2022, 11:52 AM
BG7X77
quote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
quote:
NHRA Sportsman/Class racing was never about the winner's purse


It was in 1990.


LMAO!
That's awesome!!!

I have a lot respect for class racers.....90 classes are cool too.

The payouts should be commensurate with the times; it would be better for the sport all around.


BG
March 09, 2022, 12:24 PM
SCDIV1
Damn sure was about the $$

In 1988 when I won a National event I pretty much won more money than I had in the car and could have won a good bit more if I had been stickered up better

I had Suburban and an open trailer that I paid $1200-$1300 for brand new

NHRA paid $1800 I think it was for a National win and the entry was around $150

A Division race paid $1000 and entry was around $40-$50

The contingency program was huge at most events.......

You could easily have 30+ paying decals and well more if you really worked at it

A Division win could pay $4000-$5000

A Major National win could pay $15 grand, maybe more...

Ask Dan Fletcher or the Richardsons.....They cashed a lot of checks !
March 09, 2022, 12:40 PM
442OLDS
quote:
Originally posted by SCDIV1:
Damn sure was about the $$

In 1988 when I won a National event I pretty much won more money than I had in the car and could have won a good bit more if I had been stickered up better

I had Suburban and an open trailer that I paid $1200-$1300 for brand new

NHRA paid $1800 I think it was for a National win and the entry was around $150

A Division race paid $1000 and entry was around $40-$50

The contingency program was huge at most events.......

You could easily have 30+ paying decals and well more if you really worked at it

A Division win could pay $4000-$5000

A Major National win could pay $15 grand, maybe more...

Ask Dan Fletcher or the Richardsons.....They cashed a lot of checks !


Yep,at one time,I think I had 40 decals on the car.Ran out of room for all of them.By the time I won a few National events,it was down to 20.Now,less than 10.

I usually went to 5 or 6 National events a year.

Right now,planning on 2,but that may change.

Travel costs and poor payouts have really made it not practical.

There are independent association races that make much more sense to attend with the same caliber of competition.

Here is a good analogy:

If you play the lottery, it is not likely that you will win,but if you do,the million or more in prize money is what keeps you playing.

If the lottery had a top prize of $10,would you bother paying $1 every week just for the sake of trying to win?
March 09, 2022, 01:53 PM
1320racer
Bracket racing nor class racing has ever been about the $ for me and those that are smart. Most never win and few win often. If you’re doing this for the $, you’re in trouble. Winning $1,800 on occasion or $18,000 once or twice every decade ain’t going to cover my expenses nor the expenses of any serious racer, not when a new turnkey dragster is $100k and more and a new professionally built turnkey back half door car is $75k and more.
March 09, 2022, 02:43 PM
BG7X77
Low payouts are bad for the sport as a whole.


BG
March 09, 2022, 07:44 PM
dirtdobber
what you all are forgetting[or leaving out]is the national event round money.3rd round loss pays $300,most of your entry back. Same rnd at div.$50 if you're lucky. Agree it's still to low but we all can't be the winner and every little bit helps!


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March 10, 2022, 09:23 AM
Bill Koski
3rd round loss was paying $300.00 when the entry fee for car, driver and crew person was $160.00!
WHAT HAPPENED?


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
March 10, 2022, 09:36 AM
Toad1
Board of Directors overhead and lack of fans, show simply takes to long, period. Just my opinion.


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March 10, 2022, 02:17 PM
T/D6591
quote:
Originally posted by DragRaceResults:
quote:
NHRA Sportsman/Class racing was never about the winner's purse


It was in 1990.
I should of started sooner. Pomona winners check for T/D i got 1395.00. What a let down.


March 10, 2022, 02:18 PM
T/D6591
quote:
Originally posted by dirtdobber:
what you all are forgetting[or leaving out]is the national event round money.3rd round loss pays $300,most of your entry back. Same rnd at div.$50 if you're lucky. Agree it's still to low but we all can't be the winner and every little bit helps!
Semi in Phoenix at the Nations in T/D and i got 500.00