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Bracket Talk Bracket Talk Forum General Discussion - by FTI track rule clarity-throttle stopsGo | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
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| DRR Sportsman |
Our local track has this rule in their track rule book. TOP-ET – Delay boxes and timed throttle stops only. No down track throttle stop timers, stutter boxes, etc. Do these contradict themselves? Or by down track throttle stop TIMERS do they mean anything that regulates the car based on something like slew rate? Stephen Liss jr | ||
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| DRR Elite |
My understanding is that the key words are "down track". Meaning you can use a timed throttle stop, and delay box, but cannot use a throttle stop down track. For what that is worth. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Whats down track? the minute you leave the starting line you are already down track. Stephen Liss jr | |||
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| DRR Elite |
Have to ask those enforcing the rules I'd say. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
I would ask the track manager to clarify that rule , I could run TOP and have the stop on at .005 and come of the stop at the 600 ft. mark. Is that down the track .....LOL HAVE THEY CALLED US YET ? THEY HAVE!!! | |||
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DRR Pro |
Why would it matter to them which end of the track you turn on the stop? I get the stutter box part but not the throttle stop part. ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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| DRR Elite |
I remember a few people way back that used it as kind of a spot drop tool. Some got a hard on about it and a rule appeared. That's what I remember anyhow. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
agreed, ive seen people come on and off the stop 3 times. no down track stutters or rev limiters is common, but it should not matter when the throttle stop comes on or off | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
I've left on the stop to kill the hit for .100 or less then it comes off. I don't see an issue with that since it's not on-off-on but I would check with the track. I just use it as a launch control to keep the wheelies down.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1355PRO, Eric Macchiaroli S/R1355 80 Arrow | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
Downtrack throttle stops refer to the throttle going from launch rpm to "on/off/on". They are leaving the door open for progressive throttle controllers, which means the throttle can be opened slowly, but the rpm goes from launch rpm to WOT, just in a slower controlled manner, not "on/off/on". __ Michael Beard - staginglight@gmail.com Staging Light Graphic Design, Printing & Event Marketing | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
Old rule at our home track, if you used a throttle stop, you could only dial 8.90, 9.90 or 10.90, anything else was illegal. 72 Nova "Hooptie" | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
What sense does that make? | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
racerdude you would understand if you knew the man that "owned" the track then. It didn't have to make sense, it was HIS way As I remember years ago throttle stops were only allowed at the launch, not down track, to soften the hit and prevent traction loss. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I think that rule showed up around the same time as when guys who "dumped" were called cheaters. | |||
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| DRR Elite |
That is my recollection as well. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I remember a S/C race in about 1989 (just a little guy but for some reason this one stuck with me), my dad has a wheel on the other guy going into the lights and gets "Sent" pretty hard. Everybody thought that guy was the cheatenest SOB they ever saw, couldn't believe he didn't follow him through like a gentleman. Me at 5 years old thinking, "ya, but he got the win light didn't he?" | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
So the throttle stop on the top end or person who spot drops is cheating. Or cannot be done at certain tracks please educate me why this is so wrong. Bracket racing is all about putting a dial on your car and running the number. Right? So a person that spot drops or uses a throttle stop on the top end still needs to run their number to win. I understand this will make a faster car see the picture different, and this may make them mis read the slower car. But how is this wrong as the slower car still has to run the dial. Cheating? The fast car has more choices as the race is in front of them. Or am I just missing something ? I know this will stir the pot....LOLThis message has been edited. Last edited by: J178RED, HAVE THEY CALLED US YET ? THEY HAVE!!! | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
It's just one of those things that got written down a long time ago in reaction to something that was "new and scary" to certain folks. Once something gets written down it's hard to unwrite it. I remember the first time I saw a stripetaker in 2001 I thought it was blasphemy. I had one installed by 2003. | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
Then what is wrong with traction control? What is wrong with MSD Programmable Digital-7 Plus? Comes down to the haves and the have nots right? Burt I'm So Proud To Be An American And Not A Democrat... | |||
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| DRR Elite |
It's a hold over from a darker time.  But really, running the number isn't really what is needed to win a round. Technically speaking of course. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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