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POS Democrats won't pass the bill

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March 24, 2020, 09:01 AM
Michael Beard
POS Democrats won't pass the bill
No one will read them, but if you REALLY want to know what's in the bills, and not just what you hear on the internet, the full texts are available here:


Democrat's House bill: https://apps.npr.org/documents...1-Updated-House-Bill


Republican's Senate bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/...enate-bill/3548/text


I posted these on Facebook, and the replies ranged from outrage (without reading them) to "Do you have the short version?"


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March 24, 2020, 09:54 AM
Bill Koski
There's no telling how long the House Demon-0RATS have had their "wet-dream-bill" written just waiting for a piece of Legislation that has to pass to attach it to!
Hopefully the reasonable members in Congress won't get weak kneed and pass this debacle this time?


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
March 24, 2020, 11:59 AM
Trans Lady
These Provisions Have No Place in an Emergency Bill

A House-proposed draft circulated today includes the following measures that would do little to address or mitigate the crisis:

Reduce student loan debt by $10,000 per borrower

Permanently expand Affordable Care Act (ACA) premium subsidies

Forgive all the U.S. Postal Service's debt

Make the Child Tax Credit (CTC) fully
refundable for the next 6 years

Increase the size of the CTC by $1,600 for children under age 6

Bail out multiemployer pension plans that were failing prior to the crisis

Temporarily expand dependent care tax breaks


Meanwhile, the Senate-proposed bill released last Thursday includes measures to:

Weaken base-broadening enacted in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), retroactive to 2018, including limits on interest deductibility

Enact unrelated technical fixes to the TCJA related to the "retail glitch" and repatriation payment refunds

Creating a new $300 above-the-line deduction for charitable giving in 2020


In general, these proposals will do little if anything to address the current crisis. While some are sensible policies on their own, they should be enacted through the regular legislative process and with adequate offsets.

They should not be tacked on to emergency legislation, particularly if the measures are permanent or the costs come at the expense of needed emergency spending.

http://www.crfb.org/blogs/thes...place-emergency-bill
March 24, 2020, 12:12 PM
David Covey
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
No one will read them, but if you REALLY want to know what's in the bills, and not just what you hear on the internet, the full texts are available here:


Democrat's House bill: https://apps.npr.org/documents...1-Updated-House-Bill


Republican's Senate bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/...enate-bill/3548/text


I posted these on Facebook, and the replies ranged from outrage (without reading them) to "Do you have the short version?"


Pretty dry reading Michael.. But in what little I did read the most interesting thing was the Table of Content of both bills.
The democrat bill talks about every thing under the sun and little in helping the economic issues of the people and or business, while the republican bill is more specific about the current crisis and what it will provide economically for the most part..

What I did read, will likely pizz off people or make them happy depending on what side of politics you fall..

BUT, having said that, the repub side is definitely attempting to address the issue at hand while the dems are all about politics.. My opinion of course.

Last thing.. The people who are against this bailout of industry are not thinking beyond their nose.. What will the employee's do if after all is said and done they go back to work only to find the shop has closed and will not reopen, because they used what cash is available to them in paying for rent, machinery, utilities ect...?

Dave


"It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance." -Thomas Sowell
March 24, 2020, 06:15 PM
wideopen231
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
No one will read them, but if you REALLY want to know what's in the bills, and not just what you hear on the internet, the full texts are available here:


Democrat's House bill: https://apps.npr.org/documents...1-Updated-House-Bill


Republican's Senate bill: https://www.congress.gov/bill/...enate-bill/3548/text


I posted these on Facebook, and the replies ranged from outrage (without reading them) to "Do you have the short version?"


First I have never been big on read super long anything. At 1258 pages this applies to super long on steroids.

How the hell does anyone or any 50 right such a long bill in anything less than 6 months? Why would you need something htat long unless you where trying to hide 10 tons of fat in it?




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March 25, 2020, 08:55 AM
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March 25, 2020, 09:45 AM
pentastarrail
Can't wait to see all the pork/BS they added to this bill.
After all, the solar panel companies need free money too.
WTF


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March 25, 2020, 09:47 AM
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March 27, 2020, 02:06 PM
Bad Nusz
quote:
Originally posted by Canted Valve:
The justice I see is the big cities (read sanctuary cities) are the ones hit the hardest.


It sounds like the so-called "poetic justice". Ironic that those hardest hit are the ones who brought this upon themselves. Tsk tsk.

I'm very anxious to see what happens come next election for new Congress critters; the suspense is eating me alive! ;^)
August 02, 2020, 03:35 PM
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