September 25, 2009
Categories: Senate
Ensign receives handwritten confirmation

This doesn't happen often enough.

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.

Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it "Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold."

The note was a follow-up to Ensign's questioning at the markup.



September 24, 2009
Categories: Senate
Flout the mandate penalty? Face the IRS

Americans who fail to pay the penalty for not buying insurance would face legal action from the Internal Revenue Service, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation.

The remarks Thursday from the committee's chief of staff, Thomas Barthold, seems to further weaken President Barack Obama's contention last week that the individual mandate penalty, which could go as high as $1,900, is not a tax increase.

Under questioning from Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.), Barthold said the IRS would "take you to court and undertake normal collection proceedings."

Ensign pursued the line of questioning because he said a lot of Americans don't believe the Constitution allows the government to mandate the purchase of insurance.

"We could be subjecting those very people who conscientiously, because they believe in the U.S. Constitution, we could be subjecting them to fines or the interpretation of a judge, all the way up to imprisonment," Ensign said. "That seems to me to be a problem."

Ensign's argument , however, wasn't persuasive to the committee -- which rejected an amendment from Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) to eliminate the individual mandate.

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) was the only Republican to vote with Democrats to preserve the mandate.






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Yep, I seen that. Or go to jail, what a socialist Hitler would do..

The health care is pretty good and affordable in jail though

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What about it tag-a-long and BH, well throw announcer in there also. Did we forget Larry, almost..LOL

Just be patient................the spin is coming!!!!

Health insurance bills could be hardship for many

WASHINGTON — Many middle-class Americans would still struggle to pay for health insurance despite efforts by President Barack Obama and Democrats to make coverage more affordable.

The legislation advancing in Congress would require all Americans to get insurance — through an employer, a government program or by buying it themselves. But new tax credits to help with premiums won't go far enough for everyone. Some middle-class families purchasing their own coverage through new insurance exchanges could find it out of reach.

Lawmakers recognize the problem.

"For some people it's going to be a heavy lift," said Sen. Tom Carper, D-Del. "We're doing our best to make sure it's not an impossible lift."

Added Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine: "We have no certainty as to whether or not these plans are going to be affordable." Both are on the Senate Finance Committee, which finished writing a health care bill on Friday.

A new online tool from the Kaiser Family Foundation illustrates the predicament.

The Health Reform Subsidy Calculator provides ballpark estimates of what households of varying incomes and ages would pay under the different Democratic health care bills. The legislation is still a work in progress and the calculator only a rough guide. Nonetheless, the results are revealing.

A family of four headed by a 45-year-old making $63,000 a year is in the middle of the middle class. But that family would pay $7,110 to buy its own health insurance under the plan from the committee chairman, Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont.

The family would get a tax credit of $3,970 to help pay for a policy worth $11,080. But the balance due — $7,110 — is real money. Maybe it's less than the rent, but it's probably more than a car loan payment.

Kaiser's calculator doesn't take into account co-payments and deductibles that could add hundreds of dollars, even several thousand, to a family's total medical expenses. A Congressional Budget Office analysis estimates total expenses could average 20 percent of income for some families by 2016.



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What it would amount too.

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Just be patient................the spin is coming!!!!

You can take that to the bank....

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I have seen a lot of presidents come and go but this moron is worse than anyone could have imagined. How much of this country does not see what an inexperienced, egotistical jerk off he is is the biggest problem. Every day he shows what an ibecile he is.

Barack Moron Obama MMMMMMM MMMMM MMMMMMMMM

Obama, Reid, Pelosi, looks like a new revenge of the nerds movie. Combined IQ, 500, combined common sense 0.

UNBELIEVABLE, we have somebody from Ohio who hasn't drank the kool-aid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have millions of people here who he broke and he is giving millons to other muslim. He wants to break America down and we have so many stupid people who he shanked.

http://www.breitbart.com/artic...a.211&show_article=1

And the majority of blacks will defend him as Larry is doing because they are ______pid and black.

Maybe the people in his Elkhart project are starting to wake up..

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Even Jimmy arse hole Carter wasn't that bad in fking up America..

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Yeah Boy...

Simply amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The worker bees are going to work every day still believing the BIG LIE, no tax hikes for anybody making less than, just what is that figure down to now???????????
Of course locked in by their union bosses they know they'll never get there anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The "DESTROY THE ABSOLUTE BEST HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IN RECORDED HISTORY" is up to 1990 pages with death panels back in and a windfall to the socialist donkies prime benefactors, the ambulance chasing trial lawyers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time to take the stocker out for round number three (3)!

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Time to take the stocker out for round number three (3)!

Nice 3" win in rd. 2.
You must have been thinking of gutless.

PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail
JCT Confirms Failure to Comply with Democrats’ Mandate Can Lead to 5 Years in Jail
Friday, November 06, 2009


Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

In response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”

Key excerpts from the JCT letter







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